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The point is that it’s not over used, you just think it means something it doesn’t. There’s a lot of geniuses running around.

Not confused. The Sex Pistols also couldn’t play well. Sid Vicious only even learned how to play after joining the band (smh). They were arguably more about the punk lifestyle and aesthetic. The Ramones, to me, always seemed more organic and musically-focused. I didn’t say they played their songs poorly, I said they

You’re my hero right now. <3

Perhaps Kathleen shouldn’t have responded to being offered a piece of candy by asking “where’s the baby, Courtney, at home in a closet with an IV?”

Right!?

On the other hand, my first song was Smells like Teen Spirit lol

The fact that Nirvana *isn’t* the one people flat-out ignore is the whole argument, dude. People aren’t sitting around arguing the greatness of Fugazi 20 years later. For whatever the reason, like it or not... that is what Nirvana has on the rest of them.

Yes exactly. They played power cords and it was raw and badass and something new and different but that doesn’t mean they were like, amazing musicians as far as playing instruments. I wasn’t at all trying to imply they weren’t insanely talented and had great and unique vision for the time. Just also that they weren’t

They were like a grunge version of Sid and Nancy except that KC was a better musician.

I mean. Can’t we all objectively agree the Ramones absolutely sucked at playing their instruments but produced some seriously different music that totally changed the game? I feel like you don’t have to be like OMG SO TALENTED to just have a really amazing and unique musical vision. If that makes sense.

what is sad, is that after kurt’s suicide, and then a few years later with Brad’s, quality rock went down the drain. its all over produced crap now. Their are some gems that come through, but over all i find it blah. I was a teen at the time, but even then i recognized that fact. Same with rap, after biggie and pac,

Thank you for this. I said something similiar downthread. It was obvious to me that she blames herself for a lot.

I liken this argument to one that one of my favorite hole-in-the-wall record store owners back in Columbus, OH, told me one time (Good Vibrations, RIP!): The Beatles didn’t just change music, they changed culture. I think Nirvana, like ‘em or not, were the catalyst for the same thing. Whether you’re a fan of

PREACH BABY

This needs all the stars.

Live Through This WAS as brilliant as Nevermind; lyrically speaking, in my opinion, it was superior. Say whatever you will about Courtney: her influence on Kurt’s songwriting is extremely evident on most of his later work.

i hate when people i respect say that shit. come on dude? REALLY?

Bleach changed my life. I legit went from listening to NKOTB to Nirvana and Nine Inch Nails. Grunge was everything I felt inside put out into the open. Cobain was uniquely talented and I treasure the music still, but he was also a deeply troubled person. I agree that the posthumous piling on of accolades has

I never understood the Courtney hate. Yeah, she comes off as a bit of an attention seeker, but if we judge her just based on the merits of her music, her band did two absolutely brilliant albums (Live Through This and Celebrity Skin). I've always thought Love Through This was every bit as great of an album as

I will never forget, one day I was unloading my car for a party with my best friend and my then boyfriend. The BFF and I were discussing our great love of Hole, when the boyfriend, all pissy, asks how on earth we can like Hole when Courtney Love heads said band. I asked him what he had against Courtney Love, and he