Toyota’s fix > Jeep’s fix.  That’s the comparison.  I’ve had 5 Jeeps and 2 Tacoma’s over the years so I’m quite familiar with the relative build quality.

And replace the rustproofing on the inside of the frame rail. A weld with proper penetration will burn the paint on both sides.

Right, they take frame welds very seriously.  Like properly inspecting that they are done correctly at the factory....ooh yeah

There is big goddamn difference between routine warranty work and THE FREAKIN’ FRAME. Even Subaru, well known for their warranty support (hah!), replaced the whole car when they saw the seriousness of the issue.

How is replacing the entire frame worse (that rusted over a period of time) than a frame welded in place. At least Toyotas fix was thorough. Considering how little Jeep is taking apart to get to the bracket, they are doing the equivalent of a trailside fix. Does that earn you “Trail Rating” points?

After ‘76 all CJ’s are the same from the cowl forward, meaning if it doesn’t have power steering, for example, it can be easily added. They are basically LEGO. Before ‘76, it can be done, but may or may not need custom parts.

The Bronco is at best going to be an alternative to the 4-door Wrangler which is NOT a nimble little off road vehicle.  

The driving characteristics that limit my CJ5 on the highway make it an absolute peach on tight trails.  Since most of my jeep came from catalogs, this option already exists.  I suspect it will be just as crashworthy (hah!) as a Jimny.

Renegade =/= Jimny  

Families made that change when SUV’s got 4 doors (Cherokee). Families did not buy Samurais. I think your recollection is more than hazy.

“...that wasn’t a Jeep.” You just identified the vehicle that started the SUV craze. The XJ was and is far more popular than the Samurai and also predates it in the U.S.

“...a Jeep maintaining 80mpg...” - did you mean 8mpg? LOL at funniest typo in a long time!

I like to wash my CJ, and there is dirt embedded in the damn paint! (my first and last attempt at painting a car)

I survived 5 years of my home renovation using my old Forester pulling a 4x6 trailer.  That said, I bought a Tacoma in May, and don’t regret it one bit.  Pickups are fantastic!

You should look into International Scouts. While they all are prone to returning to the earth in a reddish-brown, they had quite the color palatte back in the day!

As a long time jeep owner I hate them too. It’s really supposed to be a fun-loving vehicle that doesn’t take anything too seriously (especially welding the frames together).

Thanks for posting the right answer. Here’s the other front runner:

So does the rest the of world, and there’s not a thing wrong with that either (ssssh FCA’s lawyers might be on here so don’t call it a “Jeep”!)

I’ve been a Jeep CJ owner from the age of 14. While some get in a huff, that does’t offend me at all since every contemporary solid axle 4x4 was a copy (and often times improvement) of the original Willys: Land Rover, FJ, Mahindra, Scout, Patrol...you name it. I can geek out about Jeeps enough to make David Tracy fall…