Saw this the moment it was released. It is a failure of a car. It is by the numbers a fast car, but that is it. Not a classic or lusted after car like its predecessor.

I live in Canada. I commute 30 mins to work in bad weather. So does everyone else here. Fuck e bikes.

illegal on mass market vehicles, pedestrian safety

Becuase like this, it is stupid.

You have way too much luggage. This thing is just fine.

That is because seen or driven one fast CUV, you have driven them all. I have driven most, and they are all the same. Boring.

Jaguar basically invented the big fast sedan. I love my XJR

As good as this may be, especially in terms of looks, I will never drive one. I have CUVs and crossovers, especially the feeling of driving high up and how they all look and drive the same.

Not a lot of women involved at the high level in a sport that traditionally does not appeal to women (not speaking of casual fans). Shocker.

Yes, yes it does.

I get the hate, and I am a part of it. That grille immediately puts the car out of contention for me. Would rather get a Giulia QV by a long, long way.

How does this company still exist? Is the heavy industries propping up the car business? I do not see their cars anywhere on the road, ever.

come on, nobody will buy this in a manual even if it was offered.

They are listed as SUVs, because marketing. If they were listed as tall hatchbacks, like they are, then they would not sell at all. The illusion of CUV sells more than the actual sheetmetal.

Whole family? Have you been in one of these things? They are a small hatchback on stilts, nothing more. Whole families will skip right over these things and buy the 7 seat giant SUV.

I do not see this as a thing, as a fan. None of my fellow fans I know are judgmental against women in motorsport. I see no prejudice in the races I watch (touring cars and endurance racing). If a woman excels in the sport, great, she is another great driver in a field of them. That should be the end of the discussion.

Sure, why not.

Music he likes and a leap pad (long trips) with educational games. He is happy until he dozes off.

I hear you, I have the advantage of working for a dealer so I get commensurate perks.

You must have a crap dealer. My shop can get just about anything except modules and body panels within a couple of days from JLR warehouses.