None. My car doesn’t have cup holders. I am happy with that.

Absolutely nothing. Boring car.

I agree, my old Saab could take the worst Canadian winter could throw at it. But to fit into his criteria strictly, you could go with an XWD 9-3 Aero or TurboX...

TurboX is the answer. Wagon with a stick if you can find that unicorn.

not awd, but I like where your head is at

Love Saab, but good luck getting parts on that rushed 9-5. Full of problems and parts are non-existent.

THIS. It ticks all the boxes.

Horrible suggestions. Wow.

No, im not trolling at all. I stand by my original statement: no CUV deserves a manual. Ever. Because a manual is an enthusiast transmission, and the CUV is the anti-enthusiast machine.

I agree with you. Most of today’s vehicles are numb and devoid of character. That includes CUVs and most sedans, even some sporty ones. That is why I drive a RAD Alfa Romeo 155 V6 as my summer car and my daily is an R53 Mini JCW. Old cars are just better if you are looking for steering feel and character. That is why…

OK. So the S6 has a bit of numb steering. It still is better than any CUV dynamically. Also looks heaps better.

I have also driven an S6. With a V10. It is not for old people at all. Sure the numbers may be close for the Macan GTS, but it doesn’t have to fight against physics to be fast around twisties, the Macan does.

it is not uncompromising, CUVs are anti enthusiast machines. End.

Driving enthusiast with a family? Buy a sport wagon. V70R. Saab TurboX. CTS-V. Audi S4/S6. Subaru Legacy GT. Some came in manual. True enthusiasts buy used anyways.

NONE. EVER.

I will be glad when the pointless Supra articles die off. It was released, it is a great car but by no means any classic, and soon will be largely forgotten.

Get a Lexus then. You don’t buy a TTV10 and expect it to be a pillar of reliability. I drive an Alfa Romeo and a Mini, this TTV10 doesn’t scare me.

This is ugly and looks like a Kia and a Honda. Audi design since 2008 has been complete garbage.

I agree. A long downhill fall Audi has been through since their design high in the mid 2000s.

That is what I was thinking, happened to my Mini - tiny cracks in the ABS ring in the hub was throwing off the sensor at highway speeds, and then all was fine at slower speeds.