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I have no issue with that, as I’ve said many fucking times, the premise of this blog post is dumb and wrong. My issue was just with the comment I commented on, and specifically where they affirmatively stated that they were not mansplaining when they were.

sick burn, thanks!

I think you [rpbably overestimate how affected in the day to day I and other women are by things we call out as sexist

The original blog post was dumb, my issue was with the comment specifically.

Amen. I’m sorry I got suckered into this bad article’s comment fights, to be honest, and I’m sorry that I got pissed off and gave ammo to people who will use it as an excuse to not listen to women in the future. I honestly think the original comment wouldn’t have stood out to me if he hadn’t affirmatively stated that

I don’t think men get to say that, because then where’s the line? There’s always going to be something that harms women that men don’t see as a big deal. Men should not, in my opinion, get to decide that there are things that are not serious gender issues. Because: ok, threading tweets, we all agree that’s bullshit.

OK, I saw sexism in the comments (mild! doing something sexist doesn’t mean you’re a bad person! it doesn’t mean you don’t get to talk any more!) and I said something.

Threading tweets is not about gender—the blog post is dumb, and makes a dumb point. The original commenter, as a man, defining legitimate gender issues, is mansplaining.

I think part of what happened is that I didn’t realize mansplaining was such an upsetting term to dude--it makes sense, and I apologize. The original post was mansplaining--doesn’t mean he wasn’t right, doesn’t mean he’s a bad person. People do a lot of shitty or thoughtless things during the course of a day. He

OK, what I am saying is, when a man defines sexism to a woman, that is mansplaining. It might be warrented, it might be shitty, he might be right and she might be wrong. Mansplaining doesn’t mean you never get to talk again. Men do not experience being women and so it’s not their place to define the negatives that

No: it’s mansplaining when a man positions himself in a position of authority to define sexism to women. Men are allowed to disagree. In the course of a reasonable discussion a man might mansplain (god, I hate that word), the same way, during a reasonable discussion, I might raise my voice or you might interrupt too

It’s not a man’s place to define sexism, the same way I don’t comment on blogs about men fighting for custody of their children and tell them what their legitimate problems are and are not. It doesn’t matter if I’m right, it’s not up to me to decide for them.

sure, i’m trolling, i’ll accept that label. Honestly, I got groped on the train this morning and I felt a lot of impotent rage at sexism and this is unfortunately where it got channeled.

A man explaining to women something that women experience as if he has the same understanding is mansplaining. God, honestly, mansplaining is a dumb fucking word and I wish there was another term to use. I’m just sick of men positioning themselves as objective arbiters of what is and is not legitimate sexism. I’m

It doesn’t excuse you from criticism, no, and I think people should criticise this dumb bad take. It’s also not the place of men to dictate what legitimate gender issues are. Both can be true!

I don’t agree with the bloggers original post. Threading tweets is not a gendered issue and this is a dumb take. My issue was solely with the commenter mansplaining, and honestly, “issue” is probably taking it too far. Mansplaining is not murder. Lots of people do it. I do things that are definitely equally as shitty.

No, I don’t. I don’t even think that’s a gendered issue. I had an issue with the comment aside from the content of the original post. My issue is not that this the author made a good point (she didn’t) or that this is a worthwhile fight for feminism (it’s not), but with the idea that a man gets to dictate gender

Dude, you’re right. I wish another comment thread had caught my eye this morning, very true. Sorry I interrupted a safe space for y’all, no shade at all intended.

Yes, I think men can have contradictory opinions on sexism without being sexist. Listen, just because someone mansplained doesn’t mean their argument is thus null and void. When someone tells you to stop interrupting during a conversation, it generally doesn’t mean they think you’re a horrible rude person who should

If you understand how men and women experience sexism differently, then you must realize how facile “It’s like if I said that all women make Facebook worse for men with no supporting arguments.” this is as a counter argument