I trust Aretha’s niece to do right by her aunt’s legacy. I selfishly want this to be released as well. IMO, Aretha was a goddess, the greatest female musical artist of recorded music. But she could also be her own worst enemy, known to hold grievances over things that could be interpreted as petty. I’m glad her niece…

Is it supposed to be a searing portrait of early 1960s, blue-collar family angst and dysfunction? Because it’s made by a group of friends from identical backgrounds: affluent, privileged etc..Mulligan is always watchable though., so I imagine it works on some level.

He’s been living in Cleveland!

All in the Family was also about how the left and right are bigots. Archie was played by liberal Carroll O’Conner, but he was based on Lear’s own father, who he adored. Back then, liberals railed against the show because they said it was trying to ‘normalize’ bigotry by showing the main character to be human.

It think the show is daring to go places no other show ever has, and that’s commendable. It’s not pandering to any one group or political ideology or voting block. True social commentary challenges all sides, and the fact that these think pieces continue after every show just shows that it’s getting under the…

They demonized Sanders and before Bill Bradley for challenging the status quo. I became disillusioned after the democrats essentially mocked Bradley’s run for president. And they wander why they’ve lost people.

Exactly. These overstuffed, overthought think pieces are misleading. Like this one, they seem to be twisting and turning in every which way to make the show something it is not, which is a very open-ended look at our polarizing times. They want the show to admonish people who voted for Trump. That’s not subversive,…

But who said they have gotten ‘less woke’ about gender, sexual identity and race? If you think that every single person who voted for Trump is an alt-right, skin-head, ignorant imbecile, that’s your problem right there. People were willing to overlook A LOT to not vote what they saw in Hillary as the status quo, more…

People get cynical, jaded by life circumstances. Not saying that’s the case with your mother, but I’ve seen it too. My cousin was a proud ‘bleeding-heart liberal’ who railed against Reagan, who he considered the anti-Christ. People change, as their socio-economic circumstances change. If you see politics in some…

It’s a concept steeped in real working class issues. And that’s not a world modern-day ‘liberals’ seem to understand.

So in other words, the show only works if it slaps Trumpettes? That’s not engaging in discussion, it’s pandering to those who won’t engage in conversation with people they disagree with. The show would be selling out if they did that, because that’s not reality.

Reading comments from detractors, its obvious most are not even watching the show, so there’s that. What is funny is Roseanne is probably more progressive in many ways than anything on TV.

Thank you for the thoughtful response, that is refreshing. People are watching this show and I’m fairly certain they reflect a wide-range of political viewpoints and backgrounds - and they’re seeing something that resonates in their lives. I have family members that went for Clinton and Obama twice, but voted for…

Jesus Christ, when did liberals become so intolerant and stupid? It makes me sick and I’m really starting to understand how Trump won.

Great comment.

You simply live in the real world. I’m a liberal, but these self-styled ‘progressives’ who are claiming to ‘boycott’ the show, not wanting to have anything to do every ‘Trump-voting racist-bigot’ Neanderthal, sound like Nazis. That’s part of the problem and they don’t even realize it because they’re living in a…

Yes, but Archie Bunker was also portrayed with warmth, as a human being. The point of the show was not to simply mock him, but to recognize his humanity. And Mike could be as judge mental and close minded as Archie. If you didn t get that, you missed the whole point of the show: we can disagree and still love each…

Oh please, you admittedly didn’t watch and likely never will. I’m a liberal and I live in the real world, where family members, people I love and respect, voted for Trump. We don’t discuss it. The political dynamics on the show reflect that divide - between friends, families etc....

You got me.

Ehh, I can see something like this having the potential of veering into a self-indulgent clusterfuck, because Shia, as you suggested, tends to be a loose cannon in more ways than one, and has the slightly distorted tunnel vision of a typical, self-loathing addict etc..