I mean I get it, but this is now common practice in literally every industry. The price advertised is usually before a litany of fees--airlines do it, cellphone companies do it, utilities do it, .. and so forth. The whole practice should be banned. But if other companies can do it, I don’t see how this suit will…

I mean, we have rail systems where vehicles literally sit on a track—and we still haven’t made it happen there in most cases. We have airplanes that have limited traffic to deal with where it still hasn’t happened.

I don’t think they’re saying it “won’t” happen, but it won’t happen in the foreseeable future, which I…

I mean, 99.99% certainty makes it seem like you are.. biased.

Manufacturers don’t have a track record for doing things perfectly, and especially in countries where there might be less regulatory scrutiny and they have new manufacturing operations.

And they have a notorious track record for saying “it’s a consumer…

Yes, it reminds me of the BMW i3, and will likely find similar, lackluster success.

Ironically, many people who have moved to Texas from California are liberals who move here for jobs and cost of living differentials, eg. they can’t afford property in California, or want a lower tax burden/more free income.

“Native Texans” hate this, and insist it is everything that is screwing up Texas—those damn…

Take a look on Youtube at Doug DeMuro’s Escalade review. The interior is pretty nice. It’s a step-up from a rebadged Tahoe, especially when you compare it to the Tahoe interior.

FJ Cruiser. Supra. You can point to half of Toyota’s line-up where this isn’t/wasn’t true. 

Yep, and the other part of the question—would Tesla even exist if <any> traditional manufacturers took electrification seriously? Probably not.

But because bean counters said <blah, not profitable>, rather than <well in the short term it isn’t promising, but in the long term it will set us up with a large competitive…

Because Tesla is the theoretical market leader and manufacturer that most people know about?

It’s like asking why people would compare a potential new calculator to a <TI product>

Right. For the same engine found in the GTI. This car has a little more leg room and trunk room. Aside from that, why would you buy it over a GTI.. which is.. $29k?

Ah, being openly racist.

People voting “No Dice,” I don’t understand. It’s a Honda V6, a clean body with good paint, no visible CELs, and a clean interior.

Yes, the racer-boy-mods and muffler delete are less than ideal, but it’s $5k. What are you buying for $5k that’s in better shape, with lower miles, more dependable, and looks a lot better? 

Subaru Sales:

It really doesn’t matter if your launch looks like amateur hour if you’ve got long lines for your product. How many people are eager to buy the next Subaru when it rolls off the assembly line?

Tesla is pretty much building cars as fast as they can make them without greater quality sacrifice.

It’s a matter of when.

Nothing has come back because there aren’t any penalties. We have large swaths of manufacturing that has moved to Mexico, and unless there are penalties to the automakers (and other manufacturers) they have no incentive to move it back.

The automakers, would of course, whine that they cannot compete globally without…

Yep, thanks to globalism and NAFTA, similar stories played out all over the midwest. 

Not so much who would.. but how many can? sheesh

So, replace Cadillac with rebadged Chevys?

I don’t think the exterior styling of this version is that bad.

The gaudy hood scoop is absolutely terrible. The 4 speed automatic, in 2007, is absolutely terrible. The fact that this is FWD is absolutely terrible. The GM-craptastic early-2000s interior is absolutely terrible.

303hp and meh styling can’t overcome the…