C-. A lot of it felt like time-wasting just to prolong the drama, and characters did stupid things—even stupider than usual. Not a great effort.

So I think I'm out on this show at the end of the season because I think what I want from it and what the writers want are on two rapidly diverging paths, but the only thing I will still care about is that Caroline and Stefan are OK and love each other. I never wanted more than friendship from them, but at this point,…

I did really enjoy the abject stupidity this episode. Like, I know they didn't have much power to stop him at that point, but Damon telling Jeremy he would never hurt Elena…literally two episodes ago you almost killed "her."

Insofar as the doppelganger curse makes sense to me at all, I think it makes MOST sense to believe that all of the doppelgangers would be drawn to each other, regardless of when they were born. In a world without vampires, one would think that there would have to be at least one of each per 100 years or something, but…

I thought the same thing, but then I realized: Veronica does so many sketchy things, I think she would probably end up disbarred pretty quickly.

Wow, you're so right about all of that pre-Lilly Veronica (1.0) stuff and how that fits into her perfect new life and new self in NYC. I love this comment so much.

As I said above, the idea that Laurel knows Oliver better than ANYBODY at this point is so ridiculous on its face that I took that line as dramatic irony. In order to continue respecting the writers, I have to believe this. Even though she was half-right about what she said to Oliver, I still don't think that…

All of that was stupid, but then it got extra stupid when the drone dropped its missile, which looked like it did about as much damage as a single grenade. No way that thing was going to level that mansion.

That line is so ridiculous—especially now that, as you mention, basically everyone on the show knows him better than she does—that I thought it was meant to be dramatic irony. So it didn't bother me. She might know some of Oliver's tendencies, and she sort of accidentally hit on the truth (though not exactly), but…

Especially because she actually is probably more lethal than Oliver. Like, if you put them both in a warehouse and they had to fight to the death, I'd put my money on the assassin trained by Ras al Ghul. And Slade has as much reason to want her to suffer as he does Oliver.

OK, based on your comments, I'm going to assume your first language isn't English, so you might be missing some of the nuances of Carrie's writing. Saying that Marcel is trying to reclaim "his city" is saying that MARCEL sees it as "his" city (which it WAS when the show began with him as "King" of New Orleans).

Fair point—you're right.

Sometimes people on this show say things they don't exactly mean, so I don't think Klaus's motives are as obvious as you think they are. Look at the comments here for more evidence of how confusing and unclear this show can be sometimes.

I think Genevieve planted the dreamcatcher there, though how Marcel would know that is beyond me. And I don't see why he would really want her/Klaus to know about him and Cami, but it did kind of make me sad that he seemed to plan that in advance.

Yeah, maybe I'm naive, but I actually believed Klaus's explanation to Jackson. Not that I think he's really going to let them have whatever they want, but I do think that part of this is to make the pack protective of his daughter. Otherwise, she's just a target.

Yeah, while TVD and TO are both annoyingly behind the times when it comes to gay characters, most of their tertiary characters don't have romantic entanglements because we just don't see enough of them to get into it. If Josh becomes more of a secondary/regular presence on the show, then it would be great if he could…

Her betrothed, Jackson, is also played by an Australian-born actor, though he is slightly better at covering the accent. I will never understand why they didn't just say she was adopted by Australians.

This is interesting, because you know that Damon is actually Stefan's older brother, right?

If you're on Ep 15 of Arrow, I will say that I think it picks up around Ep 18, maybe? For sure the last three episodes of the season through like the first 10 of this season are an incredibly solid run.

Not just that, but Elena has no room to be mad, given that she's been a pretty shitty friend herself recently. Not noticing that Bonnie was dead and Stefan was missing for a whole summer, for example.