They might believe that after Katherine had been absolved by Stefan and Elena, she was able to move on to the actual afterlife instead of the other side? But probably not. I do think she's tricking people for awhile, so not sure how else they would explain that.

I loved Tyler until, after a promising beginning last season, he became really inconsistent and frustrating. The morality on TO is so screwed up that I got to the point where I judge based on one thing: is your goal to kill that baby or take it from Hayley? If so, you are on the bad side. Period. So Tyler is kinda…

I liked it too, though again, I wish it had been a little less self-serving on Elena's part. When she forgave Damon on his "death bed" in the season 2 finale, she did it for him and she actually meant it. I know she had feelings for him, so that was a part of it. But she didn't seem so self-righteous then either. It's…

This might be the problem, and the reason I eventually give up TVD and TO. The shows/writers actually see their out-and-out villains as troubled and misunderstood, but really the true heroes, who just can't seem to get it right. But someday they will, and that's apparently the journey we're watching.

Unfortunately, I don't think the show will ignore the hookup, and I only see badness resulting. I definitely think they're going to use it to make Caroline stop judging Elena and Damon together. And it'll drive the final wedge between her and Tyler, which is fine with me because I think they ran their course and he…

I hate to keep harping on poor, awful, vapid Vampire Elena*, but MAN. That final (very well-done) forgiveness scene between the two of them had me pleading with the TVD gods to take Elena instead. Even on her death bed, doped up on morphine, there is more life in Katherine Pierce than in Vampire Elena at her liveliest.

I think @olivececile meant that Klaus killed Jenna.

I've forgotten everything that came before or after.

I watched the entire series over the last month. It really was a great series, and I'm sad that my lateness to the party is symptomatic of the problem. The show really never got much visibility on the network, or in the media. That said, this last set of episodes feels like a gift to the viewers, as others are saying.

Well, Stefan wanted to leave town because he didn't want Elena's life to be full of danger and darkness. It was a simpler time back then, before we knew Elena was the doppelganger and would be in danger no matter what. :) But anyway, other than either the Ripper time or when he was trying to get the cure behind…

No, the syringe hadn't been plunged. There was a clearish liquid in it.

I see your points, but I think there is one small but key difference in how Elena judged people. I think as long as she believed they were trying and wanted to be better, she thought they deserved a second chance. So as long as Damon was snapping innocent necks, she was anti-Damon. Then he'd get the sad eyes and do a…

In my perfect TVD world, Elena would be reacting to the trauma she’s experienced, and “dimming” parts of her humanity that allow her to feel negative things. So it's like she just wants to fix anything that's bad, but not for the selfless reasons she used to. Just because bad things threaten her happiness. She's…

Your comments about Elena and Caroline made me realize that, just like in her conversation with Stefan last week, Elena used selfish language when apologizing to Caroline about killing Jesse. "He was dangerous. I need you to believe that. I need you to believe me when I tell you that, Caroline." Elena. When you are…

It's been at least a few days since I said this, so I'm gonna say it again: Nina Dobrev is AMAZING. I forget, several times a week, that Katherine and Elena are played by the same person. Is this perhaps because I am easily distracted? Possibly. But how can she play two characters so differently? I have to think it's…

I really love both books, and I actually think I have more affection for Quentin than most people do, but I definitely found him more sympathetic in The Magician King.

Aw, c'mon, that's not giving enough credit to the real weak link—McQueen. ;) (I love them all, despite their limits.)

I think part of the reason Game Time was so hard was that they'd already run through some of the more obvious combos in the botched attempt at the first episode. I submitted a few to the list and looking at what they'd already covered compared to the new suggestions, I was like, "Shit, this is going to be impossible."

Don't you think one of the dead people will tell Jeremy about the Stefan switch and drowning fairly quickly?

"I can buy them apologizing to each other but that was the one moment where the writers were just trying TOO HARD to get their point across (I half expected it to be a dream sequence) & not trusting the ground work they'd already laid."