Which is surprising. The TMY 3rd row is useless. If we compare:
Tesla Model Y - Wheelbase: 113.8"; Length: 187"; Width: 76"
Rivian R2S (based on leaks) - Wheelbase: 115.6"; Length: 185.6; Width 75"
Subaru Ascent - Wheelbase: 113.8"; Length: 197"; Width: 76"
Land Rover Discovery - Wheelbase: 115.1"; Length: 195.1; Width:…

Aerodynamics lean towards the sloping rears, especially so on EVs. So that profile is what I’m eluding to. The Kia EV9 is boxy and spacious and is why it is appealing for those who want more space. I often think Ford should have created an EV Expedition/Navigator based on the Lightning as that is the target…

I do not care so much for the ground clearance as I do for the interior cargo room. The traditionally boxy SUV would help alleviate the cargo issues many have the sloping rear “coupe SUVs” in the market, including the X and Y. I know the Subaru Ascent has a similar wheelbase as the Model Y and people rave about the…

Are similar circa Mercedes AMG S63, Maserati Quattroporte GTS, etc. not in that 40-60% Depreciation curve in ~3-4 years as well?

I think this has more to do with low volume depreciation luxury 4dr saloons. A comparable Range Rover, Cayenne, GLS, etc might not be the same because demand for SUV/CUVs are higher. I’m sure…

Its all relative my dear Watson. PS asinine commentary is meant to be in satire aka tongue and cheek and I think you did get that subtext. Others not so much.

Imagine:
Income being $21,700.
Expenses being $38,200.
New debt = $16,500.
Old debt = $142,710.
And trimmed expenses by $38.50.

The issues is not minivans per se. Its the way they are styled. Remember for years the GM EV1, Nissan Leaf, and first Gen Honda Insight all looked so unattractive. The same can be said for almost every minivan. Fine maybe the Carnival and Pacifica look more “crossover” ish. But people like SUV/CUVs because they look…

Back of the Napkin math:
Ford F150 SuperCrew XLT 4wd 3.5l Ecoboost V6 MSRP = $53k.
Ford F150 SuperCrew XLT 4wd Lightning Standard Range = $55k.
Ford F150 SuperCrew XLT 4wd Lightning Extended Range =$70k.
Ford Expedition XLT 4wd 3.5l Ecoboost V6 MSRP = $65k.
Ford Expedition XLT Max 4wd 3.5l Ecoboost V6 MSRP = $68k.
Lincoln…

If only Ford made another vehicle it could electrify based on the F150 chassis? Maybe a large luxury SUV like a Navigator?

If its about a Tesla Model S, why is there a Tesla Model 3 Pictured. Why not use several Model S oneof several on the interwebs:

And reread the response:

Within a 200 mile radius, I found a Jalop favorite: Acura TL SH-AWD 6sp Manual at an Acura dealership in Indianapolis for $12k: https://www.edmartinacura.com/used-Indianapolis-2012-Acura-TL-Tech+Man-19UUA9E59CA008380

Acura = Reliable. 6sp > 5sp. Torque Vectoring AWD. 300+ HP. 2012 mean no ugly beak of the 2009-2011.

Sav…

Please reread my post. Keyword commerical. From all US auto Sales are about 80% personal, 20% commercial. As I stated in the above all Tesla’s qualify for the $7,500 credit when purchased commercially (IE in a business name...see Tesla’s own site for this information.) You can acquire the same 2023 Model 3 from…

LOL. They are not getting the full rebate this year unless its purchased commercially (IE Hertz, Leasing, Fleet, etc.) I also didn’t say I live in NJ. I said some states like NJ offer $4k on top. Colorado offers $5k.

So the point is when the total physical cost is lower, it has an impact in the upfront cost which later…

These things were being discounted to $35k at the end of last year, and qualified for the $7500 credit. Some states (like NJ) also offered $4k on top. for a total of $11.5k in credits. That puts a new one at $23.5k. I’m not sure $16-18k for something with 80-90k miles on it is a deal.

That said, I have extended family…

So Non-Tesla vs Tesla charging speeds go from 31 to 42 minutes?!? I thought the smartest thing was to arrive at a DC rapid charging station with as close to 0% as possible and charge up enough to get to another DC Rapid Charging Station or end destination? It seems like many people are going from 20-80%?

Based on the…

The GM EV1. Just watching the “Who killed the electric car” and you see all the ingredients for a conspiracy theory gone true movie on GM’s business decisions that ultimately led them to bankruptcy.

I thought the minute the Lightning demand even so much ticks down, Ford would have transitioned to a Ford Expedition EV. An expedition is ~$55k. An entry F150 SuperCrew XL starts at $40k. The F150 Lightning starts at $50k and an ER Battery is a $15k premium.

One can’t help but think an Expedition EV ER could start at…

Bradley and Tom are close. The hybrid between the two would be the Ford C-Max Hybrid/Energi. Get 20 miles electric. Hybrid for the rest. Trunk space like the Prius V. All around the right answer.

Meanwhile, just yesterday Jalopnik published: jalopnik.com/over-2-million-new-cars-are-just-sitting-on-dealer-lots-1851088858

2.5 Million NEW cars sitting on dealer lots. I think the EV adoption curve is an extreme leading indicator of the overall New Car market. Rates are high and economic outlook is in question... So…