Admittedly, they are similar, but different. I guess the best way to say is two different paths to the same suckyness.

Effectively yes. But the DJ / CJ split stopped when Kaiser bought out Willies.

I can tell you haven't spent much time on the West coast. Everyone knows everything and they are all infallible. You can't teach them becasue they already know. If you tell them they are wrong they either get severely offended and then ignore what you told them or blow you off and use the "everybody else is doing it…

CJ was the first chassis code given to the then Wrangler. The CJ chassis then progressed through a few generations (CJ5, CJ7, CJ8...) then they released a new chassis (YJ), then the TJ, and now the JK (current version 2007 -2015)

Yupp. This is pretty much 100% accurate assessment.

I hear this too "Oh you have Jeep? Me too! Yea mines a Ford Explorer" ...

The thing is, though, Jeep doesn't only refer to a single vehicle anymore. It's a generic term, a Xerox to the dirt road world's copy machine.

See now I do not understand this. I grew up in the Boston area, have traveled most of the eastern coast (from Boston to VA including driving in NYC and outside if DC). Later I moved to the West coast. Sure, people on the east coast (Boston, NY, DC) suck at driving, and they drive like a bunch of assholes (traffic, no…

Right! I mean it's not like you could just put the box in your fridge at home, ya know, unless you happen to have a walk in at your house...

The 7 bars two circle headlights, been in production in similar form since the 50's. Sure production has swapped Manufacturer namesakes from Willies to Kaiser to AMC and eventually falling under Chryslers domain as "Jeep". The Jeep, now more commonly known as the Wrangler is iconic and known not only throughout North…

Yea, it would take a bit to haul a 70,000lbs load, the low end trucks are putting out 800 ish hp and 1500 ish tq which is not inconceivable off the newer diesels

other than the weight limits imposed by chassis limitations and suspension, they are getting damned close.

Sure you could probably get it way up there with lots and lots of work. back in the 90s a tuner, intake and exhaust would probably get you around the 400 hp mark and 8-900 tq.

It does seem to have the proper JT badges that the concept had.

Thats the Jeep JT concept from 2009. Surprised its on the street again. Either someone bought it somehow for a lot of $, or Jeep refitted newer parts and is bringing the truck back to life.

Personally I would outfit my Jeep a bit, and then buy a handful of classics from old 911s and Alfas throw in a Citroen or two.

Well out here the go to stripper cars are Bentley Continental GTs, Range Rovers, and 7 Series BMWs. You can spot them a mile away becasue they all have "jewel" covered license plate frames and dark tint.

huh, I thought it was already 440hp. but either way, impressive, especially the 860 tq. put an intake, cat back and tune on that thing and I'm sure you could break the 1000 tq mark.

So what's that put this at? almost 500 hp and almost 900 tq from the factory?

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