Well now this is reminding me of a drawing Lisa Hanawalt (production designer on Bojack) made of Cars in the style of the Cats movie, which is even more nightmarish.

It’s an anthology series, so I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing what Issa Rae would do with a season! I shudder to think of what the online discourse would be like though.

That’s fine. I thought it was ok. Had good ideas but it was also frustrating and uneven at times in the execution. There was definitely room for improvement. Still good enough to keep me watching each week though, and I was fine with the ending.

Ah right. Yeah, I don’t think there’s a good answer for how the tongue got there. I took the supernatural explanation to be that it was left by whatever entity “took” the Tsalal crew rather than Annie herself. My convoluted handwavey explanation is that Hank or the scientists (Clark could be wrong) cut out her tongue…

Haven’t looked at the finale review yet, but the comments on the Vulture recaps are mostly positive to neutral. Different crowds I guess. Also, the writer there is great, reminds me of TV Club writeups from AVC’s heyday.

I didn’t dislike this season as much as most of the people here, but I agree. I was feeling a couple episodes that there isn’t much in terms of mystery plotting. They were mostly just running in circles (hated when they made a big deal of going to Tagaq twice and got barely anything from him).

Absolutely. Take out the references and the “true detective” in the title so that people won’t feel that the supernatural stuff was out of bounds, and half the criticism is gone. Still had other flaws, but a good chunk of the negative response is due to its connection to the previous seasons and the expectations of…

I was also wondering what happened to the map they had before!

Clark’s trailer led them to Annie’s phone, where they found the video of her before her death, which led them to the ice caves.

Well said. Thanks for typing all that out so I didn’t have to.

I didn’t take those incidents to mean that the Annie’s ghost helped them solve her murder. Just indicating that different spirits were around. Navarro following the wet footprints in the dredge and finding the random Christmas tree led to nothing, case-wise. The oranges seemed to be signs from Navarro’s mother, since…

“And for me the turn towards actual supernatural stuff is welcome.” Exactly. I can understand that some people don’t like those elements, but I don’t feel that the show is really beholden to anything other than telling an interesting story (which tbf I don’t think this season completely achieved). It’s just different…

Yep, a lot of the “hero” protagonists committed terrible acts, and people got away with their misdeeds. But that’s the point—to bring up moral quandaries for viewers to ponder—which is why I don’t think sketchy ethical situations merely existing in the story is a valid criticism. The questions raised by your examples…

No, you don’t need to rewatch season 1. They just make some minor references to elements of it, but it’s not important to understanding what’s going on in season 4.

Yep, me too. And I’m glad people are voicing their annoyance with it.  Beautifully animated and written (though I think it dragged a bit in parts), but the ending bugged me.

We can only hope to be put out of our misery.

I think the lesson here is more “be very careful about sharing negative opinions of people/media in the entertainment industry.” Or at least that was the semi-serious joke Tina Fey was making when she said, “learn from Ayo, podcasts are forever” to Bowen Yang for sharing his thoughts on stuff on his podcast. Which…

Yeah, I think Laci Mosley, who hosts the podcast Ayo Edebri made her comments on, got a lot of hate online that weekend too. And apparently someone got into her old apartment or the building looking for her?

I believe the implication is that Leah was Liz’s dead husband’s daughter from a previous relationship, who Liz continued to raise after her husband’s death (unclear how long ago that was). Hence Leah saying something like, “You know you don’t have to be my mom. My dad would’ve understood…” in the first episode and…

And also when she sees the length of wet hair in the washing machine at the laundromat? I just thought that ending the previous episode with Navarro’s ears bleeding meant that was going to be major development, but her spooky visions have been about the same, maybe ramped up slightly.