That was my take away during the scene BEFORE I saw the Beyond Stranger things episode... now I’m disheartened by it because they forced a kiss for bad reasons AND hurt their story-telling while they did so.
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It does not lie... I watched the damn episode too. Just because you can’t seem to see the Duffer brothers admit ON SCREEN that the kiss was unplanned and only happened BECAUSE THEY ENJOYED HER FREAKOUT at the idea... well... not much to say.
He shouldn’t have brought up Kevin Spacey... but hey... I mean... they are connected somewhat.
the idea that a kid even has the mental and emotional ability to truly be able to handle this situation is an assumption in of itself. At 12 I had no ability to really comprehend my own emotions, MOST kids don’t.
hardly an excuse... we’ve got generations of child actor abuse by parents in Hollywood for profit. As someone who has been in Hollywood, and dated an ex-child actor... never just assume the parents are on the side of their kid. I mean, don’t assume they are terrible parents either... but from my experience most…
Truth. Don’t at all be ashamed by the fact that a show you (and I for that matter) enjoy had a kiss come about because the underage actor was horrified by the concept, and the Duffer brothers found her emotional state so amusing they made her do it... even though it was never a part of the script. (It doesn’t even…
Yes, we all know parent’s of child actors ONLY EVER have their child’s concerns at heart. Its not like Hollywood is world-renowned for parent’s abusing their kids for personal profit. Fact is, we don’t know what her parents are like in any way shape or form so we can’t really judge one way or another... but given…
The only one raging here is you. The only one blind to sexual assault here is you. You claim to want to fight it, but don’t seem to realize that sexual assault isn’t a one time thing... its a constant abuse of power that comes from years of mistreatment. The Duffer brothers may not be anywhere near Kevin Spacey level…
THANK YOU for being intelligent and reasonable. Its remarkable how many people can’t see this for what it is... using the Duffer’s brothers OWN words and video against them.
Nothing wrong with kissing scenes when appropriate. The topic at hand is that the directors admitted ON SCREEN in the beyond stranger things episode that they made her do the kiss for their enjoyment, and it was never planned. Its not about making the scene more coherent or consistent with the story. Its not that the…
It may not be straight up abuse, but this is where it starts.
I did, and you are blind.
C.M. is exactly right. I watched the Beyond Stranger things episode in question and it raised my hackles and made me extremely uncomfortable to watch that exchange. Listen, I don’t think the actor was traumatized. I don’t think it’s terrible to have kissing scenes for underage kids. I don’t even think its terrible her…
THANK YOU AVCLUB FOR BRINGING THIS UP. I kept making a point about this, and how while its not at the same level as any of the other sexual abuse scandals coming out, it is indeed an improper use of directoral power to force underage kids to kiss for the sheer fun of it. I’ve been called out numerous times by ignorant…
El is her name. It was given to her by Mike. More of a name than Eleven or her birthname.
I really like the actor but I’ve NEVER understood the character.
Feige is approaching G.L. level of mixed adoration/hatred. People love Feige for bringing the MCU together and people hate Feige for taking the MCU apart...
I LOVED the Defenders, it was everything I expected and wanted from the series. (I even wanted MORE). I truly don’t understand the luke-warm reception to it unless people were just burnt out, or as I suspect... many people just love ONE of the netflix series and not the rest, thus found the group up to be less…
I really enjoyed Iron Fist, but thought that the fighting was lukewarm on the show that should have gone more “matrixy” than any of the rest. I also felt Danny was the villain of his own story, but thats just me.