Thank you! Given the 50+ stars she got combined with the "why are you mean?" question, I was beginning to think I was crazy.

I’m sitting back resting my laptop on my non sexual lump of non-ness and squinting at this entire conversation. Stupid dumb fat bitches and their demands that people stop being adorable!!!!

This whole thread made me LOL. “Goddamnit I WILL be Zooey Deschanel if I want and NOBODY makes me cut off my mermaid hair and FUCK those women that let themselves go because I’m a REAL WOMAN who wears CUTE DRESSES and WILL NOT be held down by stupid fat bitches hating on me!!!”

I’m with you. I read her original comment and was shocked that it had over 50 stars. For real? Someone bragging about how cute they are gets 50 fucking stars here now?

Well, I guess because she sounds like a self-absorbed, humble bragger who is claiming that she’s surrounded by non-sexual, non-attractive, lump of non-nesses who want her to be the same but she’s just way too awesome for that and that just strikes me as assholish.

You live in a very backwards place, I suppose. But, hey, you get to be a "non-sexual, non-attractive, lump of non-ness" there so swings and round-abouts, huh?

I am aware of the numerous ways that society teaches women to hate themselves, mothers or not. I was pointing out that society targets women from every angle so that the idea that "EVERYONE" told this poster to "let herself go" after the baby was born seemed odd, since NO WOMAN is ever encouraged to "let herself go"…

Well, congratulations! You live in the remarkable corner of the world where women are not taught that they must remain sexy for their whole lives or be the subject of ridicule.

the shiny gizehs are teh barfz.

That’s the joke! These days dresses don’t take a ton of effort! And they are comfy as fuck.

There was a grassroots environmental activism summer job I went to a “raising sesh” (introductory training day) for that, even for the good that it was doing, had its own vocabulary. There was special vocab for the SUV that you rode into the suburbs (how is this environmentally friendly?), for the neighborhood you…

Yeah, mom here, and let me tell you after I had my son EVERYONE told me that I could just “let myself go.”

There are absolutely companies that deliberately use cult structures and conditioning deliberately. They’re called business cults. My oldest foster niece got caught up in one; those kids going door to door selling lightbulbs or soliciting for charities? Many of them are business cults.

It’s aspirational, because they probably believe their targeted consumer - upscale moms exercising their tushes off - wants the body of never having had children, even if they have or will have children. I think this is their fucked up reasoning. And it’s such patriarchal bullshit.

I was just going to say this reminds me of Scientology.

Yep. On a much smaller scale I worked in a place like this. Euphemisms, taboo words, and a huge divide between who they perceived themselves to be and who they really were. It was routinely described as a cult by those who worked there but didn’t buy in.

I live in an affluent coastal LA suburb, and it’s highly unusual to see any mom working out wearing anything else, or even really walking around in anything else unless they’re dressed up. And let’s not even talk about their little girl/tween offshoot, Iviva.

MY experience working with the PIRGs after I dropped out of college was like that. It was all built on keeping you with that groupe of people as much as humanly possible. And once you were a field manager, you best be at the social Every. Night. And the weekend party. And did you want to rent a room at the PIRG house?…

I guess they think their employees should aspire to have no kids, either.

Ocean makes six figures, she doesn’t want to have kids, she has a master’s degree, her core workout is yoga and she also likes running and spinning.