Semantics. It’s the same team, different name, different owner. 

This is literally the same team that offered Raikkonen 50,000 Euro for EACH POINT HE SCORED in addition to his salary when he came back into F1 over the course of two years. They owed him nearly 20 million Euro above his salary and couldn’t pay for fear of bankrupting the team.

I guess I should have subscribed to Jalopremium

No pics? Was it that ugly?

They know how to do it.

Also interesting. I’ve wondered about that myself and was thinking it has to do with the fact that you’re using the Spotify (or whatever app) EQ settings for a smartphone speaker which then projects to the multiple car speakers. I’ve found when we use carplay we’ve got to jack the volume up quite a bit higher than…

Wife and I recently bought a new Sportage. Love it. Hate the dealers. They’re just the absolute worst. The attempt at nickel and diming, the poor scheduling in the service department, the list goes on.

Just responded to you about this in the Kona thread. They know how...

They know how to do it.

Technically, they’re all testa rossas now, aren’t they?

Yeah, fair enough. It’s a bold claim from Donkervoort, for sure. Maybe a bit puffed up....?

Nanking semi-slick 100TW racing tires. Sticky as a wad of chewed up bubble gum, but probably have to replace them at least yearly.

No, they’re not 45% better, obviously. And I was more meaning when you move into $100k+ cars a lot of the stuff you get is nicer even when there isn’t a commensurate rise in performance. Think Corvette C8 with amazing performance but we all know which one is ‘nicer’. I’m sure they use quality stuff in the McLaren too.

Ah yeah, I think they were Canadian market only in North America, and probably sold in Europe and Japan as some kinda gussied up Hondas. Basically a nicer Civic.

The ILX is just changing names to the Integra though. And before the ILX, there was the CSX. And before the CSX, it was the EL. And before the EL, the Integra.

Yes, but this one goes to eleven. And it’s chartreuse.

That’s not really how it works though. You’re pretty hard into the land of diminishing returns for performance on anything over a certain price threshold. Your extra money gets you things like nicer materials, hand crafted items, and of course the intangibles like brand cachet, name recognition, and image.…

He said, she said then, since everything I’ve heard has been pretty glowing.

Kinda hard to say they didn’t drop the ball when the article is claiming they need to raise funds for technical upgrades. sure, its down $100k, but its also down 150 horsepower to the Ferrari, and by all accounts the 296 is indeed the better car.

Sounds like they really dropped the ball on the Artura, which is probably made even worse by the fact that it’s main competitor: the Ferrari 296 GTB has been highly praised and well received. Don’t know if there are really another PHEVs in this category that compete?