It might be begging the question but it doesn’t quite hit that point in my opinion (until the end at least) I think the greater point is that we should support what we believe in, some ‘pirates’ still do this.

What, then, would you suggest as a salient argument against piracy?

I’ve always deplored the hand-wringing, “it’s not really theft, because nothing is physically removed from a point of sale” assertion—particularly as digital delivery of goods has become more common. I was in my senior year of high school when Napster…

I don’t think piracy out-and-out prevents the production of new games, and definitely should’ve worded my parenthetical statement better.

The real endpoint of piracy--at this time, anyhow—has been ever more efforts at creating truly draconian DRM that punishes legitimate consumers almost as much as the pirates…

Lolz on the constitution being amended. White americans view that fucked up antiquated document as being written by god. Most have never read it, imo, and yet they will cite it incorrectly when arguing about their rights. Also, that document doesn’t mean shit to anyone outside of gov and white suburbs.

Be careful what you wish for. A Constitutional Convention in the very near future given the current set of circumstances might be the final nail in America’s coffin.

On top of everyone else’s replies involving the EULA, there’s some pretty specific verbiage in the law and contracts involving profiting from such things. If Bob the hacker in his mom’s basement writes some code that allows him to bot the crap out of WoW so he can have the latest and greatest armor out there, but…

It’s an issue covered by the reverse engineering language in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and related international law. I’d argue that some of the legal repercussions of parts of the DMCA remain troubling, the sections regarding reverse engineering are applicable to copyright infringement or fraud, either of…

Under US Law, I don’t know about German or w.e. there is no requirement to prove damages for copyright infringement. There are statutory damages.

Based on my experience with Kinja, it’s the star button.

I’ll bite.

The copywrite infringement is probably the easiest part of this to “prove” in court. Because they’re gaining monetarily from a product that uses portions of Blizzard’s code to work. Riot has already won a similar lawsuit against their own hackers.

While I see your point, you have to agree that not doing anything about cheaters will eventually cause the game to become infamous. That alone would give grounds for a lawsuit.

Ya, but the part you’re glossing over is the important part. You’re making it all about marks and logos, which is only one part of the conversation. The company is providing clear instruction for how to use their piece of software to impact a specific game.

Your assumption that it is hard to quantify the affect of cheaters driving existing players out of an in game economy is baseless. This information is incredibly easy to track and every video game running a live service successfully does so.

I refuse to buy or play Overwatch based on the reports of cheating happening so frequently. Blizzard lost money as a direct result of companies like Bossland existing. Bossland cost Blizzard this consumer’s money.

I stopped playing the game because of almost 4/10 games having one guy with the auto-aim cheat turned on. So yea, blizzard lost customers because of the asshole who made their game bad for people who were on the receiving end of players using the cheats.

Over time, cheaters can turn paying customers away from a game. It’s true that Overwatch (I play, myself) is mostly a one-time-pay-and-done sort of proposition, unless you’re ponying up for extra loot boxes and such—but poor word of mouth (“Too many cheaters”) can kill future sales, and lead to a drop-off in the…

This right here. That was largely what killed the Division. Ubisoft’s relaxed attitude toward cheaters (when it was still popular) has reduced the player base to a fraction of what it once was.

What about people like me, who got frustrated and stopped playing when the cheating became way to obvious?

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