Not to mention the fact that once the gasoline vehicle fire is put out everyone goes home and the story is over. But the battery vehicle gets put out, then spontaneously reignites, gets put out again, ignites again, and so on...

I was a 1st week pre-orderer who canceled a year later when I saw they wouldn’t deliver. I don’t remember the specifics, but most of that seems right to me, plus we were told we’d get it in time to take advantage of the full tax credit. The discrepancy there makes the car still a few thousand more than originally…

You forgot:

Ah, so the solar panels will eventually turn a profit long after I’ve gotten rid of the car that was supposedly justified by them.

“The savings will be better if you spend more money”

Everything I’m reading says that only the launch version will be available the entire first year.

So the “cheap” version is as expensive and the high-end Model 3 and won’t be available the first year.  Oh, and standard Model 3 features are optional.  DOA. 

Can someone explain to me the point of concept cars? Nothing remotely close to them is ever reproduced and any positive press they receive at reveal is more than counteracted when they inevitably show people that they are choosing to stay boring when they clearly know how not to be.

There are two kinds of people:

Exactly. Otherwise it’s becomes less an “association” and more of a dictatorship where the HOA reviewer gets to personally decide which and how by-laws are enforced.

Yeah it doesn’t always make sense after maintenance no health insurance ect, but you can’t always put a price on dignity and self worth (it’s in short supply at places like Walmart).

The problem is that the gig economy was only intended to be a “side hustle” for you to make a little extra money. No one was ever supposed to try to make a living doing it full time. I mean, it’s right there in the name. Do aspiring musicians really try to live only on the money they make doing two shows on a weekend?

It’ll work just fine... as long as you only drive on the iRoads and only park in an iParkingLot.

Apple: “You’re reporting it wrong.”

1st: Stay in your lane Apple. Literally.

Gen Xer here. 1st college graduate of a lower-middle class family. I worked 2-3 jobs while attending school half time so that I could could graduate as debt free as possible. Parents supported me in no way at any point. Drove a crap car the whole way through and “splurged” on a new Honda Civic for $17k my last year of…

I wouldn’t say anyone whose life choices has brought them to a place where they choose to listen to Smash Mouth is “lucky”.

Well, you ended up maybe being right, but you understood the initial intent wrong.  Here’s a quick link I dug up that references the proposed pricing:

Except, you know, no more credits. The original draw was the potential to get the “$35k” BEV for less than $30k. They’ll never sell a car for as cheap as they sold me on when I put in my 1st week reservation (which I then canceled a year later when I saw the writing on the wall).

Tesla needs to get the fuck out of here with this pricing that includes fuel savings.  That is unless he won’t want his money until after those savings are realized.