Driving one now. Expect to put 1k into repairing the well known but minor weak points in the car (impacted shock towers, leaky water resivois, bad engine mounts, replacement belts and pulleys), and you’re golden. The drivetrain is rock solid, and the steering and shifter is the best I’ve experienced in any fwd car.

Commie.

Long time LA resident here.

If you’d like more information on this subject particularly focused on densely populated cities, I’d suggest reading this blog by a guy whose job is to solve these exact problems.

I think this has everything to do with the “because fuck you that’s why what are you going to do about it” social structure we live in. Maybe they’re just “disruptive food prices” you guys, and we’d do it too if we were smart!

Sounds like you’re the kind of person who far prefers low population density areas, and that’s cool. And yup, low population density areas will still almost certainly require personal transportation, and congestion won’t be an issue there. These are two entirely different problems to solve, and even crammed countries…

And this is why I live in the city. People don’t start shit like this because who fucking cares and was that a gunshot whatever I’m late for work.

And this is why I live in the city. People don’t start shit like this because who fucking cares and was that a gunshot whatever I’m late for work.

I live in LA, and I’d say that Americans’ aversion to population density, public transportation, and their stubborn insistence to drive everywhere is THE biggest detriment to that logistical freedom you’re talking about.

Wait would the “free market” be enough to determine where the private companies build their backbone lines? This just sounds like free public money to build a private thing. Similar to the stadium subsidy scams.

Of course there’s also the third reason: I have more than one friend.

well that just sounds like an enthusiast market that doesn’t automatically equate newer with better! Sounds about right to me 😊

Wow that’s more than what I would expect. There doesn’t seem to be much of an enthusiast community for it in the states; perhaps the demand is the fact that it’s reliable, good on gas, and can baby?

Good to hear! Will be my second car for sure if I ever need one.

It’s an American thing. We just love logical fallacies so much you guys.

I owned a manual 3cyl metro. Best I can describe is that it’s a lot like driving a 60's era beetle, but with absolutely none of the cool factor.

Test drove a gen1 Honda Fit a while back and The driving dynamics were shockingly fun! Close second only to the gen2 mini for me, which It came down to a bit more fun, but with WAY less cargo.

The microvan. Marvel of space efficiency; if I was emperor all new electric cars in the city would follow the Kei car size model.

That makes sense as an American, I feel like I’m the only guy on earth who actually wants a light car that has fun limits at less than 90mph. Suppose it’s our different highways, tax structures, and a healthy dollop of no-homo bro-murca that keeps cars like this from selling in favor of heavier, more power cars. Bums…

Well I don’t think you need to fit in ALL of those Venn Diagram circles to be into drift/import night culture.