I’m not dismissing them. I think they are....probably right. Unless it’s through an independent state, which doesn’t seem viable at this point, giving Palestinians freedom from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea would mean a change in status for the Jewish people also living in that area, in that they would no…

I would disagree with people who want to “drive Jews into the sea, and while I know that there are people engaging in such dehumanizing rhetoric about Jewish people in light of this conflict, just like there are people engaging in dehumanizing rhetoric about Palestinians (difference being some of the people engaging…

Of course I’m not arguing against basic human rights

Hamas has 20,000 members, out of a total Palestinian population of like 7 million in Greater Israel, and a total population of like 14 million from the river to the sea, so I’m not sure why you think Hamas would have any sway in a state where Palestinians have equal rights. I’m not calling on Palestinian supremacy…

*there is no PALESTINIAN/ARAB state...

So, there’s a difference between “the status of Jews in whatever entity arises will be very unclear” and unequivocally meaning removal of Jews from that area (hint: unequivocal and unclear are opposites). What that professor is describing is just the inverse of the situation that already exists now! I.e., between the…

I think you reversed your point, but whatever. “Mowing the lawn” is a euphemism that specifically refers to periodic military actions in Hamas, it is the language Israeli officials use to describe that action. What makes it disgusting, to me, is the equation of slaughtering human beings, which is exactly what “mowing…

And he’s still in power. I was responding to a specific point that suggested Palestinian civilians deserve what is happening to them because they haven’t removed Hamas from power. I am just pointing out you could make the same argument about Israelis, but it would be absurd to suggest that the Israelis who were…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/02/israel-stikes-gaza-children-victims/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/02/israel-stikes-gaza-children-victims/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/02/israel-stikes-gaza-children-victims/

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/

And what have Israelis done in the last 17 years to rid themselves of governments that oppress, brutalize, and slaughter Palestinians? Oh, right, nothing.

fuck off

It’s Israeli airplanes, sent by Israeli commanders, at the behest of Israeli officials, destroying the lives of Gazans who are subject to Israel’s authority.  They are absolutely being executed without due process.  You can couch it in whatever bullshit language you want.  Gaza is not an independent state.  It is…

That’s been Israel’s excuse for decades of oppression of Palestinians, that it’s necessary for Israel’s security. But the October 7 attack still happened.

Forever missing the point.  The point is that you can’t take it as a given that everyone who uses the phrase means it as a call for the genocide of Jews when lots and lots and lots of people who use it don’t mean it that way (and taken at face value it can’t fairly be read that way either).

Hamas won an election 44%-41% 17 years ago. The mean and median age in Gaza is 18 (or was before Israel started slaughtering all those children), so the average Gazan was 1 year old when that happened. I guess I don’t think people deserve the death penalty because their parents or grandparents maybe, but probably…

Self-rule?  Gaza is not a sovereign nation. If they were, Israel wouldn’t control access to food, fuel, etc. Israel still claims sovereignty over Gaza. Anyways, I guess all those human rights organizations that call Gaza an open air prison and blame Israel for that or just antisemites.