It’s a catholic majority, it’s 6/9. And if you mean the Catholic Conservative plurality, then no, they didn’t legalize same-sex marriage. Only one of those people was part of the majority opinion. So saying that catholicism is in any way linked with that decision is wildly disingenuous, when a majority of the…

According to 2012 data collected by Pew 49% of catholic registered voters are/lean republican compared to 42% for democrats.

My point is that a large proportion of powerful conservatives are Catholics (who let their beliefs influence their decisions) and a large proportion of powerful Catholics are conservative.

Most of the people I know are Catholic. I am the only Democrat in that group. So....statistics might say otherwise but I think a lot of people who know Catholics know many who are also Republicans.

I actually hope this continues but I’ll be very honest, the rhetoric around here is very very very vocally for Catholics to make Pro-Life their single platform. And if IL can have a Rep Gov in 2015, anything is possible with Chicago Catholics.

You’d be surprised, based on my Catholic college. There’s a fair amount of liberals with the Catholic church, but it’s a very conservative institution.

Every Catholic I knew growing up was a Republican. The current church leadership is very conservative, especially when it comes to women’s issues. Denying that is silly. As is denying that this sort of shit is very much in keeping with Republican dogma.

Meaning most Republicans aren’t Catholic and wouldn’t support this? Or that most Catholics are Democrats and wouldn’t support this?

That is only an appropriate response if you accidentally showed up at the Genesys Discoteque next door.

Scalia.

No, the problem is you’re arguing from a position of ignorance by assuming that was my premise when it never was. Jesus fucking christ, I never said that the hiring of these two specific individuals is racist. I’m saying the fact that only light skinned POC seem to have been considered for the positions, that the only…

Dude, you are jumping all over yourself to say the lack of women and dark-skinned POC isn’t indicative of institutional bias, and that in and of itself is bull shit. You’re just making meritless excuses.

Yes, look at the header photo: it’s incredibly obvious that Noah is several shades darker and has a different undertone to his skin. They don’t magically hex-match their skin together because they’re in the same frame.

It doesn’t matter how light skinned a black person is - unless they are white passing, they are still going to be darker than a white person in a photo if they look darker than said person on video/in person/etc. No lighting angle is going to make everyone the same color.

I mean, the alternative is that you’re saying…

Again, you’re twisting my words and making the bizarre assumption that in every case, a white person is the best guy for the job and there are no black performers who would do a better job than any of the white hosts.

Yes, exactly. Vanity Fair has done this shit before.

My point, which is what I’ve said, is that the lack of dark-skinned POC and the fact that all the POC who’ve been given their own shows are light skinned is indicative of institutionalized racism. It evinces as trend that is found throughout media: that it’s more difficult for dark-skinned POC to get work, to be…

Vanity Fair’s Oscar cover barely had any PoC as well and the ones included were made to look super white.

... So your argument is that there are no talented and qualified dark skinned people in the industry and the ONLY reason to hire one would be a diversity quota?

No one is dismissing their talents. Nor are either of us suggesting that we should replace the light skinned black men with darker skinned black men because they’re not black enough. Both of us are talking about institutional racism and the lack of dark-skinned POC (and, obviously, women) in the lineup. Your…