@neutral: Ford should go for Lincoln. A smooth, quiet ride pretty much whispers “luxury.” Maybe take the F-150 chassis and build a Navigator EV, or take the Mustang Mach-E tech and build a new Town Car for people who like big cars and cannot lie.

Ahh, well, that makes more sense.

Right. You’re going to take that single data point as authoritative?

The Lyriq is actually a few hundred pounds lighter than an Escalade.

Seriously. The fact that a big, 9000-lb, 1,000HP beast like the Hummer is basically as energy-efficient as your average Prius should tell you something about the efficiency of gas vehicles.

Nah..if you believe EV critics, it has to be perfect or there’s no sense in making changes at all.

So you’re suspicious of the Volvo XC40, which is offered as ICE, hybrid, or BEV?? Also the new BMW 7-Series? And the Ford F-150?

Your curb weight is off. The Hummer EV is around 9,000 lbs. To be fair here, the Escalade is around 6,000 lbs.

It’s common knowledge that it’s difficult to hit the EPA numbers.

Those are self-reported numbers. I’ll take the official EPA numbers for comparison purposes.

With the Silverado EV coming out soon, I don’t think it’s going to be much of a stretch to think we’ll also be seeing Tahoe/Suburban EV, Yukon EV, and Escalade EV. The gas Escalade will probably stick around for a bit after the Escalade EV debuts, but the gasser’s days are numbered.

It’s on the closeup of the IP. And considering the official combined EPA is 16MPG, 13.3 seems right on target.

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Operating costs are already about 1/2 of a gas vehicle. If you’re primarily charging at home or work, fast-charging isn’t as big an issue. Lots of models in that 250+ range now. Not sure about winter driving, but that’s mainly a concern if you live in a place where it regularly gets down to zero or below. Of course,…

Or any cylinder count that is not 4! Like 2. Or 3. Three is a number that isn’t four! Or 1! RS3 with a supercharged, turbocharged, 3.0L 1-cylinder!

The cars may have gotten bigger, but I’m betting the back seats have barely grown.

That’s pretty clean-looking for a 30 year-old vehicle. I wish I looked that good at 30.

In 20 years when people are complaining that “They make things to break nowadays! They used to make cars that last. Look at the Mercedes S-Class!” you can point to the Dodge Caliber and say “No, they also made crap back then. They just all went to the junkyard.”

Maybe he doesn’t care as much about the cars as we think he should?

I think they might have crossed their fingers before getting in, so they’re all good.