The first and second rows, yes. The third row? Better amputate if you intend to sit there.

As long as they can fill something like 80% of the seats, they’re still more cost-efficient than 2-3 smaller planes.

The Model X is not very roomy inside except for the first and second rows. The Rivian looks to be much more flexible and roomy behind the second row. Also, some people prefer boxier styling.

For comparison, the R1S is about the same length as a Toyota Highlander.

You gotta make vehicles that fit buyer’s wants and needs. Sure, a Nissan Leaf is probably enough vehicle for 90% of the population 90% of the time. But you’re never gonna convince a brodozer or SUV buyer that they can get by just fine with a Leaf.

Less expensive models are in the pipeline.

If you fold all the rear seats into the cargo position, you get about six feet of relatively flat space. Put an air mattress on it and you’re good to go. There’s even a video of the Rivian CEO demonstrating this.

Just wait til they come out of their house. The insane acceleration means they won’t even know they’re being run over until the tire is crushing their skull.

You have to AirBnB it or pack one of those portable camping sinks :)

The point is that if we, as a society, have decided that we want to use less gas, making alternate fuel vehicles in many body styles gives buyers more choices. When they have more choices, they’re more likely to purchase that alternate fuel vehicle.

Over time, yes. EVs and other alternate forms of energy will, given enough time, decrease demand for gasoline and oil-based energy products. However, the question is, what is the time horizon for that? Is it so close that building a new refinery or upfitting a refinery is a bad investment right now? It seems some…

If you don’t respect the heat, the heat isn’t going to cut you a break.

I heard that part of the problem is that refineries shut down during the pandemic and haven’t reopened, and other refineries were shut down because they don’t comply with EPA or some other regulations, and the owners are reluctant to spend money to make them compliant because fuel demand could go back down.

Every coal rolled costs them $3.50.

You wouldn’t understand. It’s a Jeep thing.

I think if you put a handwritten “For Sale” sign on the car, park it at Walmart (no number or anything, just “For Sale”) and come back 30 minutes later, you’ll have a half dozen people standing by the car waving cash in your face.

@neutral: I only have one question about your plan. Who rules Gastown?

I test drove a Lexus that had that cursor/mouse thingy. It was awful. Just awful.

More recent versions of iDrive have a touchscreen, so you can ignore the dial. Having multiple ways of interacting with the screen gives the widest flexibility.

I think iDrive has been touch or knob-controlled for about five or six years now. Except for when BMW ran out of the touchscreen layer and sold a bunch without touchscreens (still had screens, just no touch UI).