If OEMs had zero appetite to create their own alternative, then what are the laws for? Why are dealerships pushing so hard to keep them?

Hint: it isn’t because no one wants in...

Your arguments are bunk, and typical for dealership apologists. Factory stores could very easily run a dealership as well as any current…

Ummmm...old cars came with climate control. Old cars also came with quiet mufflers.

A broken climate control system will suck whether the car is new or old. A loud exhaust system can be put on a new or old car, just the same.

May look wide, but it isn’t. It’s 1" wider than a Ford Explorer, same width as a Lamborghini Aventador, and about 6" narrower than a Ford Raptor.

Also, since it isn’t listed anywhere, for those who are curious, it’s a 67 model year.

You’re kinda going to the opposite extreme by bringing in F1. F1 engines are small displacement engines pushing extremely lightweight vehicles. They’re as relevant to the general world of racing as a street car engine is. The Porsche 919 Hybrid ran 9,000 RPM. A Ferrari 488 GTE car makes peak power at 5500 RPM. Porsche…

The LS engines have a pretty stout bottom end...it isn’t high RPMs that are saving them. They’re deep skirt, six bolt, cross bolted mains. They handle boost and nitrous, which isn’t easy on anything.  

“everything you need except batteries...”

As Hammerhead is trying to tell you, that is the hard part. Leaf batteries are not a great option as they are relatively low capacity and air cooled. Most people serious about this are doing the Volt battery packs, but again, it’s not just hooking up a normal car battery. There…

His wearing of a shirt does not interrupt anything that is happening. It is more akin to a sign in the background of a movie, which happens all the fucking time. You, like plenty of other people, are basically saying “shut up and let me live my life without bringing your struggles to my attention”. EVERY. SINGLE. form…

You’ve spent a ton of time responding to this post for someone who is NOT an expert in the field - conveniently ignoring the people who actually work in the industry telling you that you’re wrong.

Dunning Kruger - look it up.  Your take is as ignorant as a 5 year old telling you how to do your job.  You lack the basic…

Eastern Colorado is just Kansas-lite. I’ve done the Kansas drive many times - it is awful and deserves every last bit of hate it receives. Kansas is literally flatter than a pancake: http://www.usu.edu/geo/geomorph/kansas.html#:~:text=The%20topographic%20transects%20of%20both,would%20indicate%20perfect%2C%20platonic%20…

Pretty pictures didn’t do anything (and in my experience don’t dazzle anyone with an engineering background, though they do dazzle marketing folks). If you have the wrong boundary condition for FEA, you’ll have the wrong boundary condition for hand calcs or risk reduction testing (i.e. not the full structure/system).…

...no...no it wasn’t that extreme. It had hydraulic lifters - not solid lifters (even says so in the ad above). And not many people would turn those things up to 7000 RPM. Poor head flow would make turning that many RPM useless.

And a 69 W31 ran a 14.9 in the quarter mile (Car Life - March of 69). It would challenge a…

Well you clearly can’t read...or didn’t bother.  Either way, really doesn’t reflect well on you.  

And no, not bored. I don’t live on this website...just finally came back.  

I do read Jalopnik:

I can find quantitative arguments on the aerodynamics of wheels on Jalopnik:

Again, none of that is quantitative. HE put that word in the title. I didn’t.

As for his experience at Tesla, I don’t give a shit. Opinion is not quantitative, even if it is informed. Someone who actually knows what they are talking about can easily justify their opinion with citations and numbers. Justin Westbrook, on…

sigh...

Yes, when the title of an article claims something is quantitatively worse, I expect quantitative data to back up that claim. I wasn’t aware that was such a controversial position.

“Saying “citation needed” isn’t a shortcut to smart.”

No, it’s a nice way of asking the author to back up his claims with evidence. …

That kind of information would have been incredibly useful to include in this article.

If I’m understanding you correctly, 0.05 CD is an upper bound of the effect you’ve seen? Including both wheel size and design? And is that impact on the entire vehicle, or localized to the wheel?

I know from my aero experience (things…

First of all, the title says “quantitatively worse”. Quantitative means by the numbers. If he didn’t want to provide numbers, he should have chosen a different word. There are plenty in the English language to choose from.

Second, you don’t believe anything to be false based on what? Do you have intimate knowledge of…

I mean, it is a girl’s car...

Really not sure why people latched on to the word ‘Vette. Me thinks they have some trauma in their life they need to deal with. “Where did the ‘Vette touch you?”  Next time I mention it, I’ll be sure to leave a trigger warning.

See, I consider an 18" wheel to be massive. 15-16" is normal. 14" and smaller is small to me.

But what was missing from this article was quantitative data to support his “quantitatively worse” claim.