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I don't hate leith but I was annoyed by his speech to Greer at the end of last season when she told him she was choosing casteroy. But I agree, Leith has actually helped greer and castleroy simply because…there was no nasty taint to his actions. I'm with you in that I dislike everything about Conde and his

Conde has far surpassed Leith with his nice guy act in my eyes. And you know he's going to amp it up a couple notches in the eps to come all while withholding the info that his brother poisoned Henry and then sent him to spy on francis. I really think I just need to ff him from now on because I won't be able to stand

such wishful thinking

But I'm saying, I'm not ok with it. I have a problem with them using this rape as a "free pass" so they can revert back to francis and mary. I would prefer it if they were actually going to split them up for good and have them both move on. I would personally love if they gave francis a real love interest but that

I don't think she's in love with conde either. But w/e feelings she has for conde should be expressed to her husband, as should her desire to be with conde. All I'm asking for her is to say to francis, I have feelings for conde and want him, not you. Those words to Francis put her in no more danger. It's her actions

my issue is them using the rape 1) to have her fall into an emotional affair she otherwise wouldn't and 2) as a free pass for what bad actions she is sure to take in the back half that they'll have francis forgive her for. toby has pretty much said he is still on for season 3 so they're going back to francis and mary

oh c'mon she knows (and we know) francis would never harm her. I'm not saying announce publicly, just tell francis. He's not going to go spreading it around. Her telling Francis the truth will not put her in anymore harm than her and conde's current actions do. She still spends (and is planning to based on the

I believe she needs to tell him she wants to be with Conde. She has been leading francis to believe, well not just leading because she explicitly told him, that she hasn't been encouraging conde. She needs to tell him she loves Conde and wants Conde, so francis can move on. That's what I want. My issue with Mary is

these writers don't care about any of their core characters - mary, francis, catherine, greer, kenna, or bash. They all got cut down or out for these new characters. This didn't apply to lola in the first half, but this half they seem to have little care for her character and just shuffle her around. Hell, they

I really didn't think Kenna/Antoine would be any sort of thing. I thought he would just be flirting with her and she would decline. I didnt expect this whole bash/antoine rivalry based on an imaginary valois killing an imaginary bourbon, and Kenna to be stuck in between. Don't like it at all..

but alllllll the way under. I saw a promo with Bash very angrily yelling at kenna about antoine always being by her side.

I have a feeling Bash is going to be thrown all the way under the bus for kenna/antoine. And it's ridamndiculous. Tearing down old characters for new ones is the pits to me.

You know, when I read reign was planning to rape it's lead character to push her into a love triangle on spoilertv back in the fall, I really thought….noooo way! that's nuts! And here we are…wowza (I also recall people right here in the comments section saying the same)

the problem is mary stuart is just a bad choice to make a show off of. She's really not a heroine. She didn't care about ruling in france, and when in scotland she was stuck between men and not an effective ruler. The reign writers have already started to take from her life in scotland and bring it to france (the

that's antoine, conde's brother, ordering conde to seduce Mary as apart of their plot

in the present they have to have conde be there for mary during these events, i.e. killing her rapists, so she feels she can trust him later on. If Mary makes reckless decisions in the back half which end up helping conde with amboise, the audience must understand how she was so easily led by Conde, why she would

Conde is a spy and will stand by his family in the end. Bash is not the type of person who would act as a spy and would choose Mary in the end

yea but now that his brother is in town all that will change and knowing where all this is leading…Amboise (la renaudie is being casted so it's happening) they have to make mary still sympathetic to the audience even though she turned to a man that's going to harm her husband. This rape is being written in so the

that can't work because Bash isn't shady. He wouldn't try to seduce a vulnerable Mary right after her rape, but according to the preview Conde will on his brother's orders. Conde really is no Bash. They are two completely different types of men. I believe this is leading to Mary making some bad decisions in the back

I saw in the preview sexy brother antoine tells louie to seduce mary. I really don't know how to ignore the ick factor in louis and his bro indirectly preying on a vulnerable Mary right after she's been sexually violated. I guess Antoine doesn't know she was raped, but it's not like he would care. Based on the preview