“As I wrote earlier, if this had been any other company than Tesla, everyone would assume that the used car dealer was at fault.”

No Tesla is just being a dick, the dealer bought the car at auction, verified the FSD and Autopilot were as advertised in the auction, there is a picture in the article the dealer took verifying the functionality. They moved forward and sold is on with the knowledge the functions were there. Tesla said after the fact…

I see one in my driveway every day since last Thursday, love the thing.

Honestly, the car is a little out of the price range (most likely) of the person described in the scenario above.

That blue is lovely.

So... what you want is an updated IS? 

sounds like a great way to have grand-kids too soon. I started driving in my parents 2001 Sienna. To avoid driving my friends my dad thought it was a good idea to take out the back two rows of seats. That made it easy to pile in about 15 people to hotbox/ fishbowl the car

If you are going to devote your life to children, don’t abuse the rest of us with a 6000 pound SUV.

“Sport seat” office chairs are all the rage right now.

The whole “minivans are uncool” thing is ridiculous on it’s face. You ceased being a cool person when you had kids, buying a tarted up wagon with plastic wheel arches isn’t going to fool anyone. Just get the damn minivan, it’s the best tool for the job.

Enterprise space ship had screens all around, voice control and no cylinders. Not sure what you expected.

If it weren’t for Money, I’d have a stable full of new cars. I’d also have a stable full of Money.

the belief is that the dealer will do a better job than a quick lube joint

“in a market that can’t get enough of big and stupid SUVs."

I direct your attention to any episode of Kitchen Nightmares and the like.

When this is your daily drive, performance matters a bit less than a comfort and styling

It does have a tendency to kill non-white people, so our news media tends to not give a shit about it.  

Everyone here says they’ll buy that, and then waits until it’s going for 10K used and wonder why no one is selling it new.