Focus RS, is a compelling and more practical alternative. The Camaro is out of consideration because folks tend to like to see out of their vehicles.

Why didn’t they call it the Mustang ST?

Why not call it the FX4 Level II package like they offered on the trucks back when the FX4 package came out in the early ‘00s?

I like the car, color, presentation, and the apparent condition. However, I can’t vote NP (yet) without some well-lit photos of the underbody, and a PPI from a British specialist. At $1500-2000 then I’d be less concerned, but that’s just me.

I’m right with you on it being a fun weekender. However the paint and interior is a good match (BRG of course being superior, but at least in yellow it’ll be less invisible to the civilian tanks many drivers have now), since it’s a convertible. Black would be too hot in the sun, gray would be drab and clash, and…

Yep. The saturn concept looks like an RX-8 knock-off that used a spy shot taken with an early cellphone camera (or one taken of the RX-EVOLV and 2001 RX-8 Concepts) as its main design ethos.

“held up very well” = shattered in winter temperatures? Cracked in summer heat? Made the cars look obscenely cheap because of the required massive panel gaps to allow for expansion?

Ugh, this makes my skin creep knowing that this turned into the wretched solstice and sky, as well as camaro to a lesser extent. How so? Acres of hard, impermeable dollar-store-grade plastic interiors that heat up in the sun and will BURN ANY BARE SKIN that dares make even the briefest contact with it. Great (not…

Shitty people.

All right, then; I’ll see your bet and I’ll raise you: 2020 Ford Mustang ST.

You’re both right. Probably best just to say “Does a mid-engine Italian car self-immolate?”

Ford said they deliberately didn’t call it SVO because it isn’t relevant to any existing departments, trim, or marketing, hence just EcoBoost. Yes, folks who know about the SVO would get it, but otherwise it just adds one more confusing “alphabet soup” jumble initialism to the already-crowded abbreviation landscape.

Uh, someone has to buy new in order to sell it as used. If anything, encourage more people to buy new to increase the availability of such vehicles on the used market.

Did your wife do any cross-shopping?

Probably best to skip the traverse. The new ones have transmission issues, and other flaws. They’re living up (down?) to their name. Same for their siblings. Disclosure: I work next to a Chevy dealership and chat with the techs and/or advisors on a near-daily basis.

I was with you up until you used “recommend” in the same sentence as the Travesty - I mean traverse - without the word “not” in the sentence. I think my brain rebooted.

Well, he’s a graduate of sorts from VAG, and was involved in the Russian stacking doll setup so used by their brands. 

Fun Fact: Volvo’s (and Polestar’s) lead designer is Thomas Ingenlath, one of the former design directors for Volkswagen Group. That’s why the new 2016+ Volvo models look so similar, and also why they look a bit Audi-ish (especially the inelegant and awkward rears with no amber rear turn signals, unfortunately). He’s…

Uh, Jaguar I-Pace is easily the best-looking EV currently on-sale. I’d happily own/lease one if I could financially justify it (I can’t, yet).

I would actually watch that.