“If they build it, they will come [to the dealership and buy it]”

Because we have lots of highways. Don’t forget that we have 3 major mountain systems here and a lot of forest. I guess the point I’m trying to make is that having a suspension that can safely and predictably handle rough pavement and transient handling is just as important here as it is over there and having an IRS…

These roads look pretty similar to country roads in a substantial portion of America: narrow, one lane, nice turns, poor pavement, poor visibility, no runoff. They also look fun.

No, most of Illinois is built on a grid system, which makes navigation simple, but driving is pretty boring around here. The best driving is actually in and around cities. But, there’s substantial portions of America that aren’t like that at all.

Sounds like country roads in the US.

Depends what part of America you live in. I’m North Carolina, roads that go straight for any distance are freeways. Country roads appear to have been planned while drunk. Missouri has the best roads eveever for driving. Two lanes, smooth pavement, 55 speed limit, and not a straight more than about a quarter mile long…

Have you been to Illinois recently? The roads would be smoother if they weren’t paved.

The Ozarks are driving bliss.

15 minutes through a city... Pretty short.

My commute is only 15 minutes and through a city. If I lived in the mountains, it’s different. Except when I lived in NC, those people just built the roads all twisty I think because they were drunk.

I can count 15 different corners on my work commute. There’s a pretty sweet decreasing radius 270 degree sweeper that i take every day, followed by a couple oblique angle turns and then one that i particular enjoy taking at the posted speed limit without braking just to work on my steering input control.

And the manumatic controls are the wrong layout! How am I supposed to pretend it’s a race car with backwards paddle shifters?!

Probably...

No it’s not. You’re talking out of your ass. The Challenger is every bit as nice as the other two. It is just larger so it’s not going to be as fast or as nimble, but it’s aimed at a different segment buyer that doesn’t care about that as much. It’s still a very nice car to drive and you can fit your whole family in…

Are the roads there that terrible? The roads here in Illinois are genuinely awful, but my old Mustang drives as well as any car in them.

Get your logic and reason out of here.

You can’t read, can you? I dind’t say base model. I said almost the base model.

A railroad.

He told you that he agreed with you on that point. You read, right?

You have to disassemble about the same amount. Maybe more. It has a dual runner intake which extends over the top of the valve covers. So you would have to remove the plenum to access the valve covers. Not that it matters, over 180K and no leaks; and yes, I just knocked on wood.