Well, I have two other cars and a short drive to work. If one breaks, I cna own it.

At least part of your problem is that you’re comparing a T&C Touring (which is almost the base model) to the Mid-upper trim level Odyssey EX-L. Again...apples to oranges. And besides...who cares? One reason I bought my T&C was because I was a great deal.

No sliding doors...fail.

Simply not true. Do you own one? Or are you basing your data off hearsay? I’ve got a 14 year old Chrysler and it costs me less than 33 cents per mile to own and operate.

You’re comparing a crappy CUV with a minivan. The new Pacifica is the old Town and Country.

I changed the spark plugs in my 02 chrysler 300m after about 120,000 miles. Then I checked the gap on the original plugs just to see how bad they were after 120,000 miles; they were still within the gap spec’s for the new plugs.

I have a family of three. Bought the minivan. Town and Country, actually. Zero regrets.

Better be manual only, or GTFO.

You know, my phone auto-capitalized it, I saw it, and just didn’t even bother correcting it.

It feels like the end of an era. I used to love it so much, I only started actually imagining driving something different a year or so ago.

The thing is, if I drag it to a dealership on the back of a wrecker, it’s only worth maybe a couple hundred less on trade than if I drove it there.

Too bad this comment was so far down... COTD gold here.

This is an interesting point, Tom, and it leads me to a bit of nuance that I recently discovered; I added up every dollar I’ve ever spent on my car and discovered something alarming. Even though I’ve owned my car outright for about 10 years and bought it used, it’s still cost me an average of $300 every single month…

Great point! Dollars basically equal carbon.

Although, trading in a car that hasn’t been used up on something new that gets better gas mileage will probably increase your carbon footprint due to the lifestyle costs of the two vehicles. Buying a new vehicle requires that a new vehicle be produced, which requires enormous amounts of energy. Keeping your used car…

Tom,

First off... There should be nothing wrong with your AT in 90k miles that requires more than a few hundred dollars to repair. It very well could be something very simple and inexpensive. Take it to a transmission shop or Honda dealer and see what they say first.

HOwever many gears the manufacturers can pack in and produce more MPG’s. The answer to sequential shifting taking too long: stop pretending the autobox is a manual and just let it do the shifting for you. If you’re in 8 and it thinks you need 4th, it won’t make 4 discrete shifts, it’ll do it all at once.

It hasn’t been a long time since they rocked and rolled.

Wait... The 300 has a pretty stellar track record for quality. Where are you getting your data?