But you don't need to erase the past to write the present nor future. It doesn't matter about chemistry, it was a core of the story that we saw play out for much of S1 and parts of S2. It's bad pandering and lazy writing. It's like bad fanfic. You can write moving on from a storyline toward a new direction without…

The writers are pandering to shippers as fan service, IMO, constantly sprinkling in Felicity even when it's obviously contrived. I do feel like they keep trying to re-write or ignore Oliver and Laurel's history, even though the audience saw it play out. I don't ship anyone on this show but I don't like being told that…

That blatant re-write to pimp Olicity was some Heroes-level rewrite BS. That's not how it played out and I don't know why the writers keep feeling the need to pander to it instead of just telling the story. They don't need to erase the past as it played out originally to move forward.

I feel like folks try to talk up Amanda as more awesome and special than she actually is. Like, what's she done that's so amazing or noteworthy?

Pretty much. I feel like the show has given Lip & Fiona the screentime that Lip & Ian used to have. I'm not sure why we couldn't get both of them instead of a trade off.

Did I miss the big fight that Lip & Ian had that has made them unable to have a meaningful scene together since Season 3?

So she's a starter girlfriend for him? I can see that.

For me, that's not a Lip I want to see. I hated him with Karen because of how psychotic she was and how she messed with his mind & emotions constantly but I could at least see him feel & react with interest to events. Watching Lip with Amanda, he's an automaton. It's not only boring, it's painful to see a character as…

I hope Lip and Amanda ends soon, cause while she has feelings for him, I don't see anything from him for her. I never have, to be honest. From that tepid hug upon his arrival to Miami to his lackluster response in her choosing for them to screw on her parents' bed, the only time Lip lit up all episode was talking to…

Nah.

I thought this was quite possibly one of the worst episodes ever of Arrow. It was like watching Degrassi. Diggle was basically reduced to a yenta-like owl flying between Oliver and Felicity to talk about their feelings (a friend of mine's thoughts one this were harsher, in that she believes the show basically reduced…

I felt the ep focused too much on Felicity's grief and not enough on Oliver or Laurel's grief, and Sara meant more to both of them. Like the first 30 minutes of the episode was all about Felicity.

Derek smiling was nice. Been a while. I enjoy his "whatever" with Braeden as I like the changes it brings out in him.