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I just dont seem how you can possibly justify getting one of these at this price compared to competition.
A manual 1.5T with 180hp costs $30k.
A GTI with 240hp and a manual costs $30k and it comes with more sporty features and an LSD and larger brakes.  I just dont see the value in these civics at all

I have enemies i would wish this on but only if the carts were armed with explosives

your OCD doesnt apply to spelling that that is absolutely prefect

I want ICE cars that dont weigh as much as electric cars.  Im not too excited about these sedans

New cars are better, but only when built with the goal of maintaining old car feel. That means making the car lightweight, giving it a manual (or enjoyable auto), paying attention to steering feel perhaps even using hydraulic steering, and keeping the interior focused on the driving experience.

Then you get the hp,…

but none of it pulled the cab forward, it just slanted the window a bit and pushed the bumper forward.  but hey was prob a marketing win

I love how with these cars they moved the front wheel back and called it “cab forward design” LOL just look at that front overhang!

prior tC was nice for the time but not this one

I will say it is cool that is has a feature to restrain children in the back seat

really dont like how these look. Its like a scion tC sedan

i completely agree and think there is a market for low range light weight electric sports cars. once people realize that with a commuter style car they rarely drive more than 100 miles in a day they will see the appeal of these cars.
If you drive 15k a year and dont drive the car at all 2 weeks of the year and never…

wrap all that black on the Toyota in body color and thats actually an attractive suv thingy as far as suv thingies go

oh god thats awful. its like a reject vehicle design from Judge Dred because it was too outlandish.

Also its crazy seeing that guy in the photo. Even at car shows people are trying to steal catalytic converters ;)

we dont want it if it still only comes with a CVT.
If thats the case we would rather have a Golf R wagon

This is my vote too.

compared to this which sacrifices cargo space and looks IMO

This is getting closer to what im wanting as an electric car. I want an electric wagon thats affordable. If they were to just give it more of a square back allowing for more cargospace it would almost be there. would still be a bit tall for a wagon but would be close enough to get me to purchase

yeah modded stage 2. the problem was i was one of the few with a defective throwout bearing.  overly heavy clutch made it fail at 58k  without that clutch it would have failed after 60k and been out of warranty.  eitherway its an out of pocked engine replacement :( its rare but happened to me.

its was more a comment for others who may not know