I strongly appreciate your naivety & steadfastness in believing that the FBI really wants to only unlock this one phone and that’s the end of it. I hope, for all our sake, that it really is their reasoning and will leave the tech industry alone once they’re done with Farook’s phone (or as you say, any other phone…

I don’t get it... is this just a troll article? :)

Very true, cryptology rules the way encryption works and not Apple but the feds are trying to get in not decrypt (I guess I already answered that to you in another thread) which is why I think they just want the auto-wipe feature removed, obviously “protected” by a God passcode only the Feds will have. Even then, I’m…

Haha, fair point. But I believe the feds are trying to get into the phone, not decrypt it (technically speaking). So, they’re just trying to unlock... it would be a different point if they had an encrypted backup, let’s say, and they’re trying to decrypt it.

Is there a version or copy of the actual order from the judge available to read?

Ah!, there it is. I was wondering why no other tech giant had chimed in... the silence itself was chilling.

Maybe so... but the point still remains that a government can compel a company to design its products exactly how they want it done.

Thanks for that! Unfortunately, the people who’re calling for Apple to give in are ones whose opinions count just as much as the rest of us... and they also have the same voting & breeding rights. If everyone can spend just a little amount of time in gathering & digesting the relevant information, the world would be a…

Well, yeah, they built the thing! I’m sure Apple can do it... It’s also possible that the FBI/NSA can hack it but everything they find would not be legally obtained material. All the involved parties have some pretty smart people and it wouldn’t be hard for them at all, IMO.

That’s evidence in a serious criminal investigation. I doubt the phone even leaves an FBI locker without a million permissions & fingerprint scans.

Wow, thanks for this! All day today, I was wondering what would be the next move in this USA v Apple standoff. The last paragraph pretty much gave me a better idea.

IMO, it’s not the issue of Apple’s confidence in their iOS... they built the damn thing and can tweak it or put how many ever windows & backdoors they want as a patch or in iOS 10. They also have some pretty smart people on their payroll... From an earlier interview with one of Apple’s bigwigs, I remember them saying…

Very true... I was actually thinking about this over lunch. While I maintain that Apple’s stand is correct with respect to the big picture and the significance of complying with the govt, it also sends a message to the terrorists that their data is safe... It’s a delicate situation this... Will be very interesting to…

While you’re probably right about a precedent of a known terrorist’s phone (in this case), my comment was talking about setting a precedent about a government telling a company what to do. “We don’t like passcodes, they protect terrorists. We hereby order you to remove that feature from your devices. It’s in the best…

To say Apple doesn’t care in the context you put it in is a big leap. This is a much bigger deal than just that one guy & one phone. It’s also bigger than one country & one tech company. Apple is taking a stand against setting a precedent, one that says a government can minutely dictate how a company should make its…

While I’m with Apple taking their “Hells No” stand against the Feds, evident from my replies in this thread, some one has gotta give in this fight. Apple or the Feds... It will look really bad if the Feds have to tuck their tails in and walk away. What are Apple’s options now that they’ve decided to dig their heels…

The underlying key issue at Apple’s “Hell No” is setting a precedent. There might be a million ways to comply with the authorities for this one phone but they’re like a kid who always wants just one more cookie despite you saying “ok, here’s one more but this is the last time”. And you have to see the bigger picture -…

Besides, this has nothing to do with Apple’s tax habits or of any tech company, for that matter. It’s about privacy and our rights to protect it.

Thanks, William! You have a great day too :)

I’m completely with you on this! I was arguing over the same point with a damn conservative last week. These are arcane laws that were written even before people could even comprehend how the world would would turn out.