Yup, that’s where I’m from - just outside of Philly in the burbs. The 50+ people out here are the most racist mother fuckers you’d ever meet. We got Italian store owners demanding people speak English to be served their cheese-steak. LOL....Italians....demanding people speak English....I can’t even tell you just ow…

“He stresses that his family members were legal immigrants.”

Been night fishing at night (when there’s a new moon) plenty of times. FLY FISHING, i.e., actually in the water, with suck mud and vegetation.

LOL, it took this long????

No, just means I'm familiar with all types of dangerous bodies of water. A still pond, even with lots of vegetation and thick mud doesn't make top 5.

Actually, there are a lot of situations where I would be fine with a cop not rushing in because it’s way to dangerous, a still pond just isn’t one of them. Not while they can here the screams, not just standing there for long painful minutes and not collectively banning together and trying.

Can’t tell much from the picture you provided below. Obviously there was floating vegetation on top, and I’m sure there was also submerged plant life as well. But the car sank in 15 feet of water, so there was definitely open water as well. I’m guessing the one cop stepped onto the bank, his foot sank into the mud,…

Not a bit, absolutely true. I’ve waded into hot, muddy, murky ponds plenty of times bass fishing.

Police aren’t trained to do a lot of risky shit they do in the heat of the moment to save someone in trouble, a lot of shit that’s more dangerous than at least attempting to rescue screaming girls from a car sinking in a pond.

This was a still pond, not raging seas. Potentially dangerous? Sure. So are countless situations where often ones humanity supersedes “training”, whether it’s running into a burning building to rescue someone, or over to a car on fire to pull out the driver, and so on. Cops do it all the time.

You know people, both private citizens and professionals, jump in to rescue people from all kinds of dangerous waters, and frankly many are more dangerous than a still pond at night.

Fair enough, as I just wrote to someone else, my take was probably a little hot, I just can't help but feel like if these where white kids in my suburban neighborhood, no way the cops are just standing there listening to those girls scream while the car sank

Fair enough. My take was probably a bit hot for sure. Just frustrating to watch that video and listen to them talk about hearing them scream. All I could think is, not in my white suburban neighborhood, no way.

They knew it was a stolen car, that’s all they needed to know. This wasn’t some white teenage blonde who accidentally drove into a pond, this was a “criminal”, and no doubt in their mind likely a minority, and as a result their assessment of acceptable “risk” changed.

This isn’t Gawker, nor would I care if it was. Some days people love what I have to say, others they hate it.

People like myself who do a lot of fresh water fishing are extremely familiar with the conditions in all different bodies of water, including muddy, murky ponds.

I’ve been in such ponds (lifelong fresh water fisherman) and agreed, actually saving them could have proved very difficult, it’s the complete lack of effort that I have an issue with.

Yes I have. It’s only really dangerous if you have no familiarity. Plenty of people have been rescued from their sinking cars in ponds in Florida. BTW, Gators aren’t coming anywhere near those police cars and flashing lights.

The better question is, would you be able to sit there listening to their screams without trying to help?

Wow, as someone who has fished his whole life, including waist deep in plenty of ponds, I had no idea of the death traps they were.