Getting sick of this same lootbox discussion. Only a sliver of a minority care and the numbers show that overwhelmingly people like them. It is a legal fact that they arn’t gambling. Buy em or don’t, they arn’t going anywhere either way.

JFC so ppl having the option to buy a handfull of imaginary items is exploitative!? What a bunch of immature jackasses we are. Sorry Blizzard is forcing you to spend money trying to get an imaginary hat.

They dedicated two entire seasons to trump, wtf more do you want???

They’ve dedicated two entire seasons to mocking trump!? WTF are you talking about!?

Wow dismissing replys now??? hahah ill take the victory on this one then anyways, again as reminder....

“If they don’t listen, this loot box thing may well come to a head, and they may be forced by these external pressures to either adopt a new attitude or take losses.....Player backlash to the more cynical elements of GaaS is one thing that a company may want to take into account”

Hahaha wow, Ok your first few paragraphs are utterly asinine for so many reasons. just to address a few....Yeah, we arnt in a court....but guess who gets to decide what is and isn’t gambling smart guy???? Whether or not something is gambling is a legal fact. Its is not subjective. You, me, or the ESRB don’t get to…

well if it gave out stickers no, cause that’s called buying a sticker. If it returned money then yes, cause that’s gambling. See the difference?

......i dont understand how you arnt understanding this.... They said “its not gambling, its like cards” and then you responded “no its different because cards have value and digital items dont”...........but for some reason you cant understand that digital items having less value than even cards means that lootboxes…

“do you think it’s respectful toward the audience” wtf does this even mean??????

Sorry, maybe its just my job as a lawyer, but acknowledging the law and realities of a situation isn’t “excessive concern with minor details and rules” but maybe thats just me....and the courts....and legislatures.....and industry regulators....and the investors that make finance these companies and their games…

Exactly! You understand those digial items having less value than cards helps solidify the argument that this isnt gambling??? You understand that right?

Nah its not pedantic at all. Sorry if having the legal realities explained annoys you, but luckily the courts and legislatures dont act according to what you individually find distasteful. Go see your legislator and try the “b-b-b-but I cont stop buying the pretty imaginary outfits!” reasoning and see how that works…

Putting a coin into a slot machine for the chance to win more money is absolutely gambling. Buying a mystery toybox is not. Do you genuinely think this was a good analogy????

“This whole ‘Well... eeakchually it’s not gambling...” defense is [a legal fact and reality that’s really inconvenient for the point I’m trying to make so I will dismiss it out of hand]’”. —>fify.

No, but ppl trying to say its illegal gambling should stop focusing on red herrings.

You understand this HELPS the esrb’s point right??? If there is no value in the return then it is even less like gambling than trading cards are....

(pssst you dont own the games, you are buying a license to play them, same as a movie ticket or parking garage spot. I recommend you start using your brain before telling others to use their brains; its a bad look.)