Thank you for this. I'm glad someone expressed this early on.

Valid point.

It's not necessarily "Americans" in this case, though. It's "people who want to devalue what she says by any means necessary."

You're absolutely correct about actual consent and I'm sorry for your experience. I was taught as a kid that "no meant no" and then I went off to college and, boom, it didn't. And I would take no as no, until she got mad that no didn't mean no and I wasn't interested, and a truly messed up relationship blossomed.…

Not trying to be facetious, as it just happens, but if I'm walking around and hear a whistle, I'm going to wonder where the basketball game is.

While I'm very sorry for your trauma, my olive/dark hair spouse will now never hear the end of "but the cops said it!" when I'm trying to start trouble. So I thank you for that.

One of my first experiences was with a "good girl" who (thanks, society) didn't want to seem into the sex she was into, so she did the hard to get/oh, no *giggle* no thing. Completely messed me up about consent and if no meant no. Fortunately I'm repulsive so I never had any opportunity to be truly offensive and do…

Yes. This.

What's your ratio of people who seem earnestly interested in what you have to say vs. people who want to flame you and hate-tweet?

I think the post should specify there is a difference between the @ to Jane Doe and the @ to Jane Famous. Both should be good mannered and civil, but I don't see a reason not to engage with celebs who use the public profile for professional promotion.

Wedding was her first time off crutches after breaking hip. Wore sandals sort of like my grandmother always wore. Actual wedding shoes still in box in closet somewhere years later. Had slippers and Chucks ready to go as alternate plans.

Sorry you went through that all, but you sound strong and composed, so good on you.

My MIL is from this same family, I fear.

thank you for the tale. I enjoyed it immensely.

I find, as a bitter old person, that the details of the spouse matter less that the surrounding players.

That ladder comment is the best thing I've read today. COTD!

I do love some crap tv, but I'm glad that I never checked this out. I saw the Miller person on DWTS and she was so obnoxious I put anything she's on forever on my list.

It's a no win. Either you chime in to prove you're there and involved or you have the boss think you checked out and may not even be at the desk.

Agreed. When I worked for a private firm, meetings were painfully short. I don't think anyone knew why we were there or what their assignment was by the time the partners tossed us out. Unless it was a billable. I think some of those meetings are still going on and I left there ten years ago.

I don't usually read the foodspin stuff because I can't cook, but this was funny enough that I'll keep looking for more.