If you don’t already have a reservation for a Lightning or Silverado or Rivian, you’re not getting one before 2024, either, maybe later if you want a Lightning Pro or something.

but the risk of delay for them in the truck space is large. Legacy automakers have a lot of brand loyalty with truck owners. The non-Tesla charging grid gets better every month. Given the rough build quality associated with Tesla vehicles currently, the “unique” styling of the cybertruck, and that Tesla will be late…

With almost 100% certainty, I doubt it will start at $40k That is $7k cheaper than a Model 3.

You really expect me or anyone else to take him, and anything he’s associated with, seriously?

I remain convinced they won’t actually build it. Maybe not as convinced as a few months ago, but it still doesn’t make any sense for Tesla to make it.

I’m not entirely convinced it’d sell near Nissan Leaf volumes, to be honest.

Tesla has incentive to beat everyone else to market, and they’ve proven how important that is with the success of their other vehicles.

The Cybertruck is never going to be built, despite whatever fantasies you choose to play out in your head.

IMHO, EVs are not ready for prime time until they can be competitive with ICE vehicles without various levels of government subsidizing their sale.

Point is, he’s admittedly guessing, and on top of that, he doesn’t know even the most basic, readily available information about the state of the prototype, so his guesses are probably not well-informed.

It is clear that when the original prototype was released, it was extremely early in the development process and my guess is that it was just a (non-running) model with last-minute scraped together sheetmetal body

I think they should account for the drivetrain emissions for the BMW since they’re counting the battery in the Tesla, but it makes some sense to assume the rest of the emissions of building things that both cars have (seats, body, etc.) cancel out because they’re pretty similar between gas/electric. Also, that’s not…

You: “you should be VERY skeptical of huge claimed gains in efficiency.”

If you’re going to count the one gallon for every four gallons used on the BMW, where’s the count for getting the fuel to the power plant?!?!

A 7-year-old price that was jacked up to take advantage of the $7500 tax credit vs a 2022 price?

I’m like 90% sure people have told/showed him the real price ($25k) of Bolts before, so yeah, “pretend” is probably accurate.

The Bolt has 55kW charging, max. It’s been “old tech” for several years.

FWIW, they’ve been selling Bolts for $25k, new, for years. The difference is that it’s now transparent in the MSRP, rather than hidden behind tax credits and huge manufacturer incentives and discounts.

False premise. The Bolt is more like an electric optioned-up Trax, but with way more power.

New Bolts have been available for $25k (or less) for YEARS, despite the monopoly-money MSRP, so no, this probably won’t change anything.