Ford never even announced their previous goal, so “double” of a number they never announced just isn’t that exciting.

Tesla is probably going to build 800k+ cars this year, worldwide, and there are two new factories coming online, effectively, next year. I don’t see how Ford catches up and passes them anytime soon with the F-150 numbers they just released.

The No. 2 U.S. automaker is targeting annual production of more than 80,000 in 2024, up from its prior target of more than 40,000

Ford EVs will be half of Tesla sales in 2021 and will likely surpass them right around the time the CyberTruck starts deliveries.

I don’t think you HAVE to sell a L2 system in order to get to L4/L5, if that’s what the article is arguing against. Tesla COULD just have all of the training/data collection run in the background.

SpaceX is non-trivial. And I genuinely don’t understand how he accomplished it, given everything else he’s overpromised and underdelivered.

The segment starts, hilariously, with some dude in a spandex suit walking robotically and then dancing until Elon chases him off.

You’re making assumptions on behalf of others, which means what you said is completely meaningless.

Agreed. I think the “it almost always works well, so I assume it will continue to do so” situation fits the data way better than the “Elon Musk’s tweets make people do unsafe stuff” claim.

Isn’t this more of an argument for dissonance rather than against it? Here’s a person who saw first hand what the limitations are but still believed it was capable of more.

As such, there is no “basic” L5. It’s either L5 or it isn’t.

The problem is when you’re a Twitter celebrity and people worship the ground you walk on and you use language that insinuates your product can do things it actually can’t, those people are inclined to believe you. And when they believe you, they make bad decisions that endanger themselves and everyone around them. I…

I think that’s absolutely an issue to deal with that may make Tesla less robust, but I think we can have basic “L5" and just have to slow down in certain conditions like humans would have to (or should) in some cases. Or even occasionally have to clean sensors/cameras.

This decade, or the next, or the one after? Heck, FSD can’t even figure this out yet:

Tesla has made amazing progress and the move to vision only with the level of success they are seeing shows they are very close to solving self driving.

Dangit. Now the graphic is fixed and my comment makes no sense!

How?

Some, sure. Wholesale? Probably not. People piss and moan about the fillup costs, but they still buy the damned things in the literal millions.

Buying a gas truck when you come from a gas not-truck is effectively a “massive overnight rise in fuel prices.”

Yeah, sometimes it’s literally impossible to see the reply.