Now that F150 is 180kwh, no way CT can roll out the door with only 100.

The same way Tesla swore the Model 3 would start at what? I forget, because the number was so much smaller than the price of any Model 3 that was actually built and sold.

Road damage isn’t linear with weight, though.

However, it was still more expensive to lease and then buy than to just buy the car outright and collect the $7500 credit. After credits the Spark would have been $10,500 to buy. I paid $3900 in lease payments and the buyout at the end of the lease was $9100. So leasing and then buying would have been $2500 more than…

For reference, see Tesla and the $35K Model 3.

Agreed! I’ve been saying that for years. MSRP has been just bonkers high and there’s no way it’s not just immediately turning some people away. At least they lowered it SOME with the “new” ones so it’s not as outrageous of a price.

and because Chevy is stupid, they’ll discount them to the real price anyway

LOL.

Wait, are they discounting the new ones, or the old (first-gen) Bolt?

Wait. GM (still) has a decent 34K EV?

No, only one breed is allowed to be called “large”, so it’s English Mastiff it is. Sorry, Newfie.

I’m not sure what you disagree with regarding what I actually said.

They do not, in any conceivable way, cost less to own/operate than comparable gasoline alternatives

EVs are terrible investments if you aren’t buying them for bragging rights.

I have to disagree. The tax break effectively lowered the price of the EV for the buyer

Uh, that hasn’t happened for any other EV that hit the magic mark and lost the incentive. They’re still highly expensive and the prices have not gone down in any appreciable way.

Nice price *until Ford sells 75,000 more EVs after 1/1/2021 plus two quarters.

The credit is split between manufacturer and customer unless the market is purely elastic or inelastic on demand. Automobiles are highly elastic, so most of the credit should be expected to benefit the purchaser.

I’m glad the plug-and-charge is finally going to become a standard, but the ID.4 is the only “affordable” EV that does it so far. We need it across the board on ANY new EV.

If that is what the feds wanted, then the subsidy should have been given to the OEM, not the buyer, to reduce the buy in costs. However, we know that a handout from the government to an OEM would have never dropped the price of the EV, just allowed the OEM to make more profit.