bladerunner060
DoctorMoonSmash
bladerunner060

So, while I know a lot about this case in general, this is a detail I don’t know:

I’m really still waiting for this brilliant use of “due process” you keep bringing up. I mean, I get that it upsets you that I didn’t let you insult me badly with impunity in my reply to it, and I get that—most likely—you don’t HAVE an argument, but you keep asserting you do. So, I’m sitting here, having asked several

So, just to be clear: you’re intellectually dishonest and a hypocrite? I’ve already “won” this argument, in the sense that you’ve offered nothing but bloviating nonsense—but it’s not really about “winning”. If I thought you had a valid point, I’d conceded it. Thus far, you haven’t demonstrated any validity to your

Here, since you’re playing the “LALALALALA ignore the questions I don’t want to answer” game:

I continue not to believe you, your “I could totally email you my credentials but I won’t” bluff notwithstanding, because the alternative is that I assume you’re just completely, utterly, dishonest: Because, again, that’s not what or what due process it—and you’ve yet to address that, have you? You just want to keep

Well, right! That’s actually a great example; I don’t think even his most ardent supporters are going to argue Jeff Dunham’s a genius, right?

Since that’s utterly irrelevant to the point, and since you are frankly lying about your credentials: No. I’m not going down your stupid rabbit hole of “WHAT ABOUT PEDOPHILE CAAAAAAAAAAAAMPS”. It’s a stupid argument, it’s a bad argument—on its face. We’re not talking about ostracisizing all pedophiles for all time.

I’m going to try again. When you got condescending, I responded in kind—that’s not helpful. I’d argue you’re CONSIDERABLY more at fault, what with your attempts at condescension, but quibbling over that isn’t particularly useful, either. The point, after all, is whether an argument presented has merit.

This is emblematic: Rather than say “Well, you’re confused because WHAT I SAID was unclear”, you argued that I was confuse because I was focusing on our disagreement. If you think that is something which should be confusing, then you don’t understand how talking to people works—which, of course, you’ve demonstrated is

Wow! you’re working yourself up into a stupid lather, aren’t ya? You do’nt think it would have an affect on culture if it were made clear that pedophiles don’t get to keep being unrepentant pedophiles? There’s no CULTURE aspect to that? You’re an idiot. There’s not really any other argument here, if you’re just going

I get why people like his stuff, like, in general terms; if it seems like I’m saying “EVERYTHING HE’S EVER DONE IS GARBAGGGGE” then I’m sorry for coming off that way. And you’re totes right about the subjectivity of comedy.

Ah, yes, the “I’m totally right no matter how full of shit I am” attempt to win an argument.

Is dishonest ad hominem—a way of dismissing an argument not because of its reasoning, but because your made up fantasy about my motives.

So to be clear: I’m confused, because we disagree with each other on a thing, and I’m focusing on that disagreement? You do understand that that’s insane, right?

“being accused of mounting an argument that ultimately, no matter how logical your argument is, only serves your emotional needs.”

But—we don’t really agree, apparently, unless you’ve changed your view on your initial post, which I initially replied to and you were dismissive of my reply to?

Sigh.

Your objection to my pointing out you’d veered off topic makes no sense. It’s still a new direction—like, no, I get it. But it didn’t make sense as a response to what I said, nor does this response make sense, either. It’s like if you said “Hey, people pick red and blue paint”, and I said “Red and blue are both

Don’t confuse disagreement with a failure to understand. I DO get the distinction you’re drawing. But I’m talking about moral principles. Workplace conditions that affect you are different than taking a moral stand in general, for certain. But that wasn’t the original point of discussion, which is why I kept things in

Well, thank you for bringing up an actual point! (Whenever I make my admittedly blase comments about my feelings regarding his relative lack of particular talent, I get a lot of “fuck you” and not a lot of “here’s what I think was good...”). Plus with the way Kinja nests replies I doubt you can really derail.