See http://www.explorerexhaustsettlement.net/media/3425041/tsb17-0044.pdf

As I recall they ended the exhaust pipe just before the rear bumper cover, not allowing for the fact that the hot gases would expand outward and some would be deflected by the cover into the rear area of the car.

No large, ungainly, top heavy, weighty, ones that use horsepower to make up for deficient design while increasing other problems like rollover potential.

The body may be new for 2020, but the aeros are still mighty similar. I used to drive a 2017 Interceptor Utility around as a company car and on cold mornings you’d often find yourself “towing” a cloud. The exhaust would just stay in the low pressure zone behind the hatch. If the seal on that hatch is compromised in…

The previous gen had a lawsuit/recall related to carbon monoxide where they had to install downturned tips on it. I think its related to that.

The whistle tips go whoo whoo.

This is the result of a recall a few years ago, around ‘18 IIRC. Something about the original design of the dual exhaust on the Sport and Interceptor models allowed exhaust fumes to enter the vehicle through the rear hatch and people were getting sick. Ford’s response was to make those downturned tips the standard…

White guy taking pics

Silly exhaust trick. But the sound coming out sucks anyway.

God... not only are they stupid, but the holes they cut look like they’d come out of a low budget local exhaust shop that also happens to be the owner’s rent home.

Yeah, but the best part is the Integra has no hood and a huge “JUNK” window decal.  The kid driving the Integra knew what he was doing and his girl is just playing on her phone like, “Ugh... not again....”

If all of that is the case, then the fault is 100% on him being a complete fucking idiot. Not the tires, not his inexperience, but on his own stupidity for not actually taking those things in to account when deciding to street race a guy in an Integra.

A big problem is even with fresh modern tires the original Vipers were difficult to drive. No traction control, super light, and tons of power. You just ram it into 2nd at full clip and the beast will be unsettled.

I have been lucky enough to drive 2 generations of Viper. And I got to drive them both pretty hard - This car will lose traction so fast, its all so fast... I mean its the only super car i have ever driven, but man the speed blew me away - i mean under full pedal i was shifting like every 1-2 seconds until 5th.

Lemme guess, the tires were off by 1.5 PSI too?

Those guys yelling “You have to! You HAVE to!” are lucky no one got hit and injured/died.

Admit it. You’re secretly happy because the value of your Viper goes up every time some ass hat does this. 

This does sound a lot like VW ruining their reputation during the mk4 era.

Sounds like mk4 era VW. Burn mark through the leather on a heated seat? User error, denied warranty. 6 MAFs in 20K miles on a brand new VR6? Totally normal. Coilpacks popping every 5K miles on a 1.8T? Not our fault, pay up. Window regulator making noise? Nope, it’s the motor, not the regulator despite there being TSB…

Former N14-powered Mini Cooper S owner here, checking in for commiseration. Currently in a four-wheeled rehab center called “Lexus GX460.”