If there is evidence showing that patients are actually having worse outcomes, then I’d agree that you have a problem that needs fixing.

How much money are you willing to spend to insure that people that don’t have emergent issues be treated immediately in an ER?

No, there’s plenty of “wiggle room.” There is a ton of space and latitude to make responsible choices. You can choose any number of ways to do it. If you don’t, and instead act irresponsibly, then you need to deal with it.

The “history of American orphanages” (which have never existed as the US government has never run them) can’t compare any less favorably than children raised on welfare all their lives.

A moderate in the US is a person without a party because our two major parties have gone to such extremes that no one cares about moderates. So, as a moderate, you go into each election and pick the lesser of the two inevitably horrible choices, a la 2016.

Just because you can’t refute it doesn’t mean it’s offered in bad faith.

As opposed to the classic liberal response which is “Throw money at it and it HAS to improve!”

Thanks for the advice. I can always use a good laugh so I’ll look them up.

If you can establish that children that go to orphanages don’t fare as well as those that stay with parents that can’t afford them, and only make them another link in the “Cycle of Poverty,” then let’s see it.

The fact people don’t pay child support should not come as a surprise to anyone.

I’ll take your word for it because I haven’t followed this story at all. I read this article and the one linked within it and my understanding was S&S wanted Milo to stop doing his own publicity - Bill Maher, etc. - and he wouldn’t so they dropped him.

Medicare is popular, but it’s not a “roaring success.” You can compare outcomes for people that receive Medicare (or Medicaid, or VA benefits, or anything else) and see they’re not as good as those that do not use those programs.

Yes, I told you it didn’t exist here. You now seem surprised to discover that it, in fact, does not exist here.

There’s nothing that says “the guy was supposed to pay to support the kids” because many fathers don’t. If you’re expecting your spouse to pay for everything in your life, you’ve made a terrible decision and the consequences of that decision are yours to bear.

Who’s paying for the kids now? It’s cheaper to run an orphanage and reform the kids, or at least try to, than to just fund a neverending cycle of poverty.

I’m not here to explain it to you in detail. You wanted an example and I gave you one.

You had a kid you can’t afford?

The Economist is online, and it allows comments but it’s not very active for some reason so it’s hard to get a discussion going there.

As I understand your position, what you’re saying is you think it’s reasonable to expect people to make responsible decisions and that’s something each citizen owes the rest of society.

LOL - if you hate this kind of stuff, you’re definitely on the wrong site, my friend. You’d be better off staying with NPR, BBC and reading The Economist. This place isn’t known for its nuance.