Well you did say you were, so I won’t disagree with you. I was however, talking about marketing.

We’re not really talking about charm here, just the user interface/engineering. The proximity key is a lot of pointless complexity and cost to do something which was done as near as makes no difference, perfectly before.

Your words, not mine.

Have you ever tried taking apart a key? No? It’s all one piece? Ok, then so far as an engineered object goes, it epitomizes efficiency. Keyless systems are just superfluous complexity meant to entertain the dim witted. That’s really all it comes down to. Marketing.

Any car with properly designed locks made it impossible to lock your keys in the car in the first place.

Well don’t come crying to me when you begin to seriously question the value of taking your pants off when you need to dump, because the effort required to work a zipper is so high.

What’s advantage again? You still have to have the thing with you to start the car.

Name one advantage that doesn’t have a corresponding drawback.

Counterpoint: proximity keys offer no advantage in convenience.

Wow. It’s painted an actual color (instead of grey or black or grey-brown). And it doesn’t have hideous LED headlights. Did Icon finally make something tasteful?

Cars with wheels.

Tim, if you own a computer, and have internet access, I’d like to introduce you to this amazing thing called https://www.google.com/

You have a lot of experience being white.

I feel like the way a person reacts to interracial relationships or mixed kids always sends a truer signal of how they really feel about race than anything else they say or do. A lot of people who’ll spout platitudes about “love conquering all” will express some nasty shit opinions about mixed kids or other people’s…

Let’s be honest here - whether the city comes and gets them or the owner just drops dead, it’s safe to say a lot of, if not most of these inop vehicles will never see the road again.

Go find his grad photos then.

I like it.

The D stands for Dingle.

I’d have to look it up again, but a couple years ago I searched out this oft-mentioned study, and found it dated from the 1980s, and surveyed only college students. Meaning it’s probably anachronistic data at his point, and even if it still holds true today, then it is of narrow scope, only really addressing classroom…

If it’s of any interest, I can always talk about my Subaru 360 tragedy: