We’re gonna need some new synonyms for ‘Orwellian’ and ‘Kafkaesque’, because they’re getting worn out from use, and we’re only TWO WEEKS IN to this nightmare, yo.

Destroy his career! HA HA HA HA! Jokes!

That’s true. Most countries’ libel laws have a lower burden that the U.S.. I was more referring to the anti-Trump atmosphere in British media, although she better hope to god they don’t have any receipts.

This is downright fiendish and I am HERE FOR IT.

These people don’t know what class is, straight-up.

To me what isn’t repellent about her is straight boring; there isn’t any there there, to borrow an overused phrase.

I’m sure this whole presidency thing is not in her contract, but shit happens, and it is now costing American taxpayers ungodly sums of money for her to play house in New York. She’s tacky and entitled and I don’t see how anyone owes her sympathy for her choice in a husband.

I really don’t know what you mean by that, but I do know we disagree almost completely about the direction of the party. I feel like your strategy of dismissing progressive principles to compete for the pro-corporate middle was just massively rebuffed by the 2016 election, and you think continuing with that same…

So if he’d backed Bullard he’d have been buried by pro-Netanyahu Jewish dems (who already hate him) and for entrenching the fracture in the party between grassroots and establishment dems, and if he backed Bittel he would inevitably be skewered for the “flaming hypocrisy” of backing someone who backed someone (DWS)…

I think this response underlines all my points perfectly.

The people who didn’t vote for Clinton where it counted.

So what was supposed to happen? Despite her kicking Bernie’s ass by nearly 4 million votes the Dem Party was supposed to just hand the nom to Bernie? If you think that would have created party unity or ensured that bernie won in November then you are insane.

True- and again I want to reiterate that all of these possible leaders would be an improvement- but I see Perez as someone unwilling to put a foot down anywhere. A labor secretary who had nothing to say about the minimum wage, even under a popular president? Where are the guts, the principles?

Valid point, but are we really doing this here? Those people for whom Yoo is an authority are not reading The Slot, or the New York Times for that matter.

He’s black (strike one), Muslim (strike 2 if not 2.5), and endorsed by the Socialist Wing of the party (strike 3 and basically the Corbyn connection).

I get that, I just think when we say “wow even this asshole thinks he’s bad” has the unintended side-effect of minimizing what assholes they are.

I was with you until the last line; the party had a grassroots populist filling stadiums and they not only failed to capitalize, they left many of those supporters feeling like the party doesn’t have a place for them. That’s a fuck-up predicated on the misapprehension that Clinton was a great and inevitable nominee.

Not to be callous, or suggest he’s not a good guy or viable candidate, but Imma file that under Not Our Problem. I just really think Ellison can do more to widen the base.

I don’t believe anyone said such a thing. I’d like a house-cleaning of the Wall Street/ Clinton “Grand Bargain” dems- they’ve certainly earned it- and that’s why I prefer Ellison, who is crystal clear on this, unlike the other two. If the former labor secretary couldn’t say peep about minimum wage, I think we can do a…

I was so confused to see liberals on twitter citing his moral bankruptcy as somehow legitimizing his condemnation of Trump rather than making everything he has to say on executive overreach completely moot. Since when do we give a shit what torturers say?