So what was supposed to happen? Despite her kicking Bernie’s ass by nearly 4 million votes the Dem Party was supposed to just hand the nom to Bernie? If you think that would have created party unity or ensured that bernie won in November then you are insane.

True- and again I want to reiterate that all of these possible leaders would be an improvement- but I see Perez as someone unwilling to put a foot down anywhere. A labor secretary who had nothing to say about the minimum wage, even under a popular president? Where are the guts, the principles?

Valid point, but are we really doing this here? Those people for whom Yoo is an authority are not reading The Slot, or the New York Times for that matter.

He’s black (strike one), Muslim (strike 2 if not 2.5), and endorsed by the Socialist Wing of the party (strike 3 and basically the Corbyn connection).

I get that, I just think when we say “wow even this asshole thinks he’s bad” has the unintended side-effect of minimizing what assholes they are.

I was with you until the last line; the party had a grassroots populist filling stadiums and they not only failed to capitalize, they left many of those supporters feeling like the party doesn’t have a place for them. That’s a fuck-up predicated on the misapprehension that Clinton was a great and inevitable nominee.

Not to be callous, or suggest he’s not a good guy or viable candidate, but Imma file that under Not Our Problem. I just really think Ellison can do more to widen the base.

I don’t believe anyone said such a thing. I’d like a house-cleaning of the Wall Street/ Clinton “Grand Bargain” dems- they’ve certainly earned it- and that’s why I prefer Ellison, who is crystal clear on this, unlike the other two. If the former labor secretary couldn’t say peep about minimum wage, I think we can do a…

I was so confused to see liberals on twitter citing his moral bankruptcy as somehow legitimizing his condemnation of Trump rather than making everything he has to say on executive overreach completely moot. Since when do we give a shit what torturers say?

I’m talking about DNC chair here, and Obama was not DNC chair, but president: it was not his job to rally the party in 50 states and ensure widespread support for the next Dem. candidate to follow a historically popular outgoing president in a solid economy. That was her job, and she couldn’t have screwed it up more…

I couldn’t agree more.

What? No, we very much did not! She alienated that section of the party from where I am sitting.

Gotcha. Just thinking it’s hard to swallow “getting behind” a corporatist who holds the left wing of the party in utter contempt as DWS did, and watching one of the debates between potential leadership last week it seems to me that’s a lesson that has obviously sunk in.

I don’t understand- why can’t you get behind Ellison? It’s time for a grassroots progressive leader of color and Ellison seems like the ideal choice.

So not Trump’s children or himself then, as his mother and two of his babymammas are foreigners...

It’s anti-gay anti-Muslim and anti-feminist as well as white supremacy, which is why I used that word. Those types of hate “land” too if you’re part of those groups.

This should be the top comment on this story. Thanks for the links.

Presidents publicly targeting judges- as opposed to simply disagreeing with outcomes of courts- is #NotNormal

What’s it called?

No doubt, no doubt. Even dingus “please clap” Bush would not be facing daily country-wide protests, that’s for sure.