Yeah, you’re not wrong about it being extremely dicey in Europe. I live in Europe ( well, the UK) and it’s not all hearts and fun where it’s legal. It also increases harassment for women who aren’t sex workers if they live or work near red lightdistricts. Furthermore, Amsterdam’s red light district is seedy as hell. I…

As a general rule, white, class-privileged feminists with little practical knowledge of sex work or sex workers beyond a college course or two are anti sex-work because it simultaneously pushes a world they find unsavory and unclean underground where they don’t have to see it, while giving them pat themselves on the…

Well I’ve mostly been educated by radfems like Gail Dines and Rebecca Whisnant. “Pornland” and “Not Your Father’s Playboy” are probably both of their biggest works.

Sex work doesn’t have to be empowering for it to legitimate work. It’s a job. You go to work and then you go home.

That is most likely a very privileged subset of prostitutes. All power to them. I’m all for people doing what they want to do, but what percentage of sex workers are in a position to choose?

Uhh... It’s not a dormant power. There’s nothing wrong in leveraging relationships with sex per se. What’s shitty is when that is the ONLY option available to women. Which is how its been for MOST of history- the only thing a woman could offer was her virginity (ownership of sex) to a man, who had purchasing power and…

The reason why a lot of us are anti sex work is also because we’re anti capitalism. I don’t know why you think we believe these things are mutually exclusive when we believe they’re inherently related.

Plenty of feminists are against sex work. The Netherlands did everything “right” from the pro-legalization perspective and still has a significant trafficking problem (not to be all “teh menz also sufferz!”, but there’s a particular problem with trafficked male sex workers and a lack of anything like an infrastructure…

When you talk about how women should use to gain power over men or using sex as currency, you ignore the fact that women have sex because they like sex, women have sex for their own pleasure, and women are just as sexual as men.

My sister is a nun who lives around and works with prostitutes in Detroit. She’s a bigger feminist than you’ll ever be. Of course, she too is guilty of being an older woman, like me.

This not a valid analogy, because both genders and people of all ages work publicly in the food service industry. The terrible conditions are a result of late capitalism more than gender traitorism.

I don’t think you’re understanding this completely. I work with anti-sex work groups (Object, UK based) but being anti sex work doesn’t mean being anti sex worker. We make a point to SUPPORT sex workers. The laws we support don’t punish the sex workers. They punish the johns. Our campaigns are NEVER about harming sex…

The sexworkers I spoke with (online and Im Dutch) dont take rape seriously. They also mock women that have been forced or are forced into prostitution or want to bring to light the reality of prostitution. Most of these ‘feminist’ sexworkers find their own rights more important than those of trafficked women. I feel…

I’m really betting troll on this: self-identified male feminist who talks constantly about a “campus feminist group” (which is rather odd and specific phrasing), has spent quite a bit of time promoting the idea that women should cater to and use heterosexual male desire as a source of power, and otherwise tends to…

There needs to be. A set of commandments. If you are not acting in the best interest of women, you’re not a feminist – it’s actually pretty basic. If you’re a third waver toeing the bro line of “sex work is empowering / Belle Knox is cool and fun / I want a guy to tie me up and jizz in my face” you’re not a feminist,…

You promoted gender essentialism when you portrayed men as sex-addled idiots and women as calculating masterminds.

^^^This.

Dude, please. You’ve been prattling on about your campus feminist group all goddamn day. Trollololol, you got a bunch of people on Jezebel to pay attention to you and this fake brand of feminism that’s based around gender essentialism.

I need to write about my conflicting feelings, and one day I’ll write a massive and well-reasoned piece. I will share it with all of you.