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For cars of this era, 80k vs 280K is very obvious on most of the frequently touched surfaces; 180k could go either way.

Right? “Guys we could spend two hours a day putting an actor in painful and most importantly expensive prosthetics or we could cast this guy and he’s ready from the jump.”

Exactly. Obama didn’t run a nearly perfect first campaign and transform from a barely known Senator to the President because he was stupid or deaf to how his message was going over. The iconic HOPE poster is just that, iconic, because it emphasized and underlined his message in a bold, unmistakable way.

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“Defund the Police” is not “grossly misleading.”

Looks like he had the right idea with the Chaney hooks, that screencap is successfully unnerving in that Phantom-y way. 

Justice and Marie are clearly running a competition for worst takes now that Joan has been sidelined.

Really? You don’t know what a police is for other than hostage situations and busting people for drug possession?

So I’m not sure I agree that “gay marriage activists did a better job of getting their messaging across” than defund the police activists, given that it wasn’t until within the last 10 years that gay marriage managed to garner majority support.

So, progressives shouldn’t advocate for progressive policy?

No slogan captures every single policy nuance or policy debate among advocates.  People who say “Abortion is murder!” disagree about whether there should be exceptions for rape and incest.  People who support Medicare-for-All disagree about whether there is any role for private insurance, what benefits should be

Brushing past the fact that people calling for the police to be defunded aren’t saying their ultimate goal is police reform.

So, to be clear, you fully support completely eliminating the police force with no replacement to act in a similar duty?

I love how you talk about “what people want” without actually citing any evidence that people actually want those things.

I’m all ears for how to read that otherwise

“Defund The Police” sounds like something Republicans would have plotted and hatched as a false-flag dirty-ad campaign... peddled all over FOX News and America to scare and rile up the moronic MAGAts into going to vote.

Oh for fuck’s sake, stop it. Every. single. story includes this progressive passive-aggressive nonsense in the comments. No one is saying you shouldn’t advocate for the policies you want to advocate for. We’re just saying be smart about it, so you don’t alienate voters you need to win over in order to be in a position

When I hear ‘defund’ it says to me zero dollars whatsoever toward policing because ‘defund’ has been sloganed by anti-choice nutjobs to mean that organizations like Planned Parenthood must close and receive no federal funding for anything, ever.

So who is Obama’s lecture for?

Sincere introspection aka “I regret all my life choices”