I mean. If you go by city limit size, it’s also bigger than Boston. We’re going to go by metro area so we aren’t at the mercy of randomly drawn boundaries created in the 1970s.

The only reason why Tesla is losing money is because they are spending so much money on growth. If they stopped spending money on rapid growth (doubling their size every year), they would be one of the most profitable automakers. But they would remain a niche, Tesla’s goal is mass market so they spend money to grow…

You mean the guys who eliminated the Panamera as an option for buyers in the large sedan market? Yeah, that Tesla.

$25,865.00

Obligatory xkcd

For you coal-rollers, be sure to drill a hole through your battery and press your phone to your face for a diesel experience closer to your liking.

You have no idea how bad it pisses me off when I see a 5 series wagon for sale and click on it and it a GT Series. WTF

Harleys: 5x the price for 1950’s technology.

because #midengine

It's the Porsche bargain of the century. A Carrera S has 15 hp more, gets to 60 .1 sec faster, probably handles worse, and starts at 98k.

It does have north of 400hp. It is German. 385hp is the, "You're at 10,000 feet and in 40C weather," figure.

Have I completely lost my damn mind or does $85,000 for this seem like a fucking bargain?

Better than the 911! This is the best looking car in their lineup.

Why is there always a comment that [insert random car] needs more horsepower? It's a cayman which is exactly as fast as a 997 GT3, but is priced in Carrera territory. Its more than perfectly capable. It doesn't need more horsepower...

I'll be that guy that officially revokes your man card for speaking such blasphemous words.

Nah.

Yes! Why doesn't it have 450hp? Because of marketing. If I were shopping for a GT4 I'd be pissed that the car had power taken away because of that reason.

Well this should be nearly as fast a GT3 but the $45k difference buys a lot of track day tires, bro.

I'd rather have a GT4 Cayman than a base model 911 any day of the week.