Capt. Sonic - The audience you are looking for is probably on Facebook, still posting about Obama’s birth certificate.

Which is great. I was just thinking expanding that to gas vehicles too wouldn’t be bad if the goal was to boost the American auto industry as a whole rather than to boost the American EV industry specifically.  But of course it isn’t; it’s just to widdle all over environmentalism, even if it means widdling on his own…

The QOP already won if you thought Biden was a clown.

Now, I could sorta see if he wanted to boost American manufacturing, creating incentives for American-made cars

That’s just as dumb as giving people rich enough to buy new cars a $7,500 tax credit for an EV.

It is childish, but that’s because undoing progressive legislation IS their only mode of operation. They gotta look like they’re doing something, so the simplest thing to do is doing the exact opposite of what was done, especially since the appearance of ‘owning the libs’ keeps them in (grifting) office, their base…

10,000% agreed. This has nothing whatsoever to do with anything good for business, the economy, the taxpayer or anything. It’s just to own the libs, really. Which is so ridiculously childish.

I honestly don’t want this story to get any more “interesting”. I want politics to be predictable and “boring”, oh and also… no more super pacs and all this money being thrown into politics. Campaigns should be funded by the government and budget capped. It should be about the ideas, not the money.

I can understand promoting American assembled vehicles, but then excluding EVs makes no sense. This really strikes me as what I call malicious-legislation in which it not only sets out to actively undo existing legislation, but intentionally negate whatever said legislation set out to accomplish.

Does this mean they will get rid of oil and gas subsidies?

That’s not true. If Trump goes away, the insanity he unlocked will not go away. There are endless people will to work from his playbook, and Vance is clearly one. As long as people respond to this brand of BS and politics, it will not go away. We can’t unring that bell.

Yeah it’s clear pandering to their base, but they shot themselves in the foot when they introduced all of that basic math into it that their slack-jawed base can’t handle.

Friend, I am not “enjoying the water,” I would very much like to get out of this water.

Yeah the problem is that people are thinking that is Trump is beaten or we just get past his second term that all of the insanity he brought will go away. But unfortunately that bell cannot be unrung. There are plenty more than willing to work from his playbook and follow his footsteps.

What a coincidence -- the biggest rebates are set up to go to big old bro-dozers, the vehicle of choice for brain-dead MAGA bros. Shocking!

Vance is an antisocial, lying, self-aggrandizing scumbag. His “book” is full of lies, inaccuracies, weird fantasies and wad very obviously just an ad for a political career. He is dangerous and I hope the big Cheeto screws him over. I just fear that said Cheeto will soon eat his last KFC and we'll be left with Vance…

You know for sure that one question any VP pick has to answer was “will you always do whatever I tell you without question, even if it violates your oath or explicitly described duties of the job” The problem with Pence, among others, is they still maintained some semblance of a moral center and loyalty to their…

Vance is following in Mike Pence’s footsteps. He sold his soul for his political career. Sadly, he learned nothing from what happened to Pence but I can guarantee that The Orange Menace will sell him down the river if he becomes even a slight inconvenience to him. 

The Car salesman in me: Holy Shit!!!!

I mean, Lightning.