So you won’t consider it the best healthcare unless it’s available to everyone, at every time, everywhere, regardless of cost to the patient, and regardless of cost to the provider/facility/support. Good to know.

Yes, we do.

Oh great, another idiot that uses 20 year-old data to back a position.  

What’s fucking sickening and pathetic is your comment’s lack of evidence.  You’re a genius, obviously, so prove me wrong.

Ok, prove me wrong.

The Commonwealth Fund? Sure, use more liberal groups to support your arguments.

You’re confusing conservatism with cronyism. It’s heavily regulated thanks to ‘capitalists’ like you who believe the government should play a role in everything to ‘keep it fair’.

You’re comparing two different things: cost and quality. I’ve already covered how the costs are higher in the US due to US-based pharmaceutical companies charging more in the US than other countries. You won’t get an argument out of that from me.

You’re using a report from a liberal group that openly advocates for universal free healthcare as evidence?  Common sense would tell you that none of what they’re reporting even makes sense.

Health Insurance and health care are in effect the same thing. If you don’t have the former you can’t have the later. 

so these companies recieve no Tax breaks or grants for this research? are you saying they do all this R&D on their own dime??

I’m as much as a capitalist / republican as the next guy and even I’m for price control in the health care industry if not outright single payer.

How do I know what the NIH does? Sure they help fund research but the story you linked to even indicates they’re not the sole source of funding. They contributed ‘in part’ to many studies. Great! That’s what they’re supposed to do!

Your number aren’t even accurate? Where did you get them? You have to go back to the early 2000's to get numbers like ‘$50b in R&D spending’. For example, they spent over $60b in 2016 and it’s gone up double-digits both before and after.

So you’re mad that the geniuses in the Federal government signed agreements with at least 1 drug company that were bad for the people who paid for it? Yea, I am too! Even the quote you included stated the government people that created the agreement didn’t do a good job. I’m not sure how this refutes my argument,…

Call it what you want but it’s true.

This is correct.  The US pays the largest share of costs to develop new medicines.  That’s how these other countries can pass laws on prices.  

Healthcare is not a basic human right and it never has been. The right is for people to have access to health care. That access exists right now in most of the world and it certainly exists in the US right now.

Define ‘fair’. Fair for whom?

So, according to Bloomberg, Apple ‘may’ add this feature ‘sometime in 2020'? I love accuracy in reporting. I appreciate Gurman’s sources and access but this looks like a nothing-burger to me.