This is a show that has relied on manufactured drama/outlandish scenarios from day one. I came to accept this early in season 1, otherwise I would not still be watching. Nowadays, I care more that they get the emotional beats of the story right. I get the criticism and I think it's a fair reason to not like the show,…

The resolution to the Ian/Mickey story had no right working as well as it did and yet they pulled it off beautifully. It had a big coming out moment in front of a sizable crowd, which it's my least favorite trope in these types of stories, and yet the actors really made it work. Noel Fisher in particular has taken the…

That's a fair point, I was partly being facetious when I said that. However, I think this scene was the one wrong step in the episode, shoehorning in a conversation about the afterlife and god's purpose that seems to be required in all episodes dealing with grief. This is a problem that the writers have always had…

This was my exact reaction to that scene. Why couldn't we get Zach instead?

That scene reminded me a lot of Dawn's visit to the morgue in "The Body," actually the direction in this episode had a lot of moments that were weirdly reminiscent of that episode (including the protagonist imagining alternate versions of what's actually happening). But if you are going to copy, do it from the best.

"Finish Him."

Yeah, usually I'm mesmerized by how cool preparing the meals looks. But that shot of the meat grinder was slightly revolting.

"Everyone touched each other's butts and it was great" - Tina Belcher/me when Brown uncuffed Will.

The rational part of me agrees with everything you said and still I was left feeling a little more disturbed than usual by the scene, which I guess is kind of the point. I'm not questioning whether it was a good move for the show, I think it was. As you say, it reminds us of the true nature of Hannibal after we've…

I would feel comfortable calling Will the protagonist of the show, even though as you say it's not so easy to tell sometimes. I think Hannibal is primarily concerned with Will's journey and the conflicts that Will has to confront thanks to Hannibal's actions, which would make Hannibal the antagonist by definition. The…

Well someone knows what they are doing then.

Kickstarter to fund cock shots in Looking S2.

:: Takes place in line, shouts: No skipping ::

It has its artistic merits no doubt and I'm glad that the show has the balls to go there, I'm just feeling really upset about Beverly, even though last week I didn't have this reaction. In a way I'm glad I had to look away, just to make sure that I'm not completely desensitized by this type of violence.

I kind of shut down emotionally and looked at the whole scene from a clinical point of view. That was the only way for me to make it through the episode. I think all the emotions are hitting me now that the episode's ended.

I'm gonna say it's all in Will's imagination. Can't quite come to terms with Alana doing that knowing what Will thinks of Hannibal.

Although it's taken a turn for the worse lately what with all the body suits. I demand speedos!

Yes. I feel like seeing her body displayed was hard enough as it was and then they go on an show the slicing up, which pushed the scene from horrifying into unrelenting.

That was unmitigated emotional violence against the audience. I think Bryan Fuller hates us. But seriously, I wonder if the scene came off a little too mean-spirited for anyone. The more I think about it, I almost feel personally attacked by the violence on the show for the very first time and I wonder if anyone else…

Yes. The only difference being that Brown was ready to go from the moment Will said go.