This is the right take and everybody else should shut the fuck up now.

Just took a look and yeah that’s a shame. The aluminator 5.2 is still sweet though, cross plane crank or not.

Don’t they?

Making claims on the zl1 based on an ss would be like me saying I know the ttrs isn’t as quick because I’ve driven a golf R. The zl1 and ttrs put down the same general times in a straight line stock for stock but the zl1 absolutely destroyed it through a track. Track times may not be directly indicative of street…

You’ve driven a zl1 1le? Oh tell me more! You know who has driven both? Multiple professional race drivers on tracks with exact lap timing which seems a little more standardized and reputable than your butt dyno, especially since I know you haven’t driven a zl1 1le.

I think he’s saying with such a huge margin on the track you have to be insane to claim it would walk these cars on the street. Believe it or not a supercharged 6.2 liter v8 can match most cars in “ferocity or intensity of acceleration”. Get a grip, the cars are fast but so are a lot of $75k sports cars.

Now that this is a thing you’d be a fool to go with the s90 and it’s frumpy rear end. More space and better looking by far.

I know I’m kidding they’re trash

THIS guy gets it. Understated and classy. Complement the skinniness of the jeans well.

At this price range might as well just get a 3rd gen tl type s with a stick. No need to upgrade the suspension and already has a 280+hp j series. V6 accords are underrated cars thoughZ

I actually think American cars have gotten better and have benefited from at least the Japanese manufacturers being amazing in the 90s and early 2000s but stagnating recently. A lot of them are just now moving away from whatever mass produced ancient 3-3.7L v6 they throw into every car. Back in the late 90s, nothing…

Looks cool.

Bought my TL from faulkner Buick!

Yeah I actually live in West Chester which is in Chester county, and confusingly enough the city of Chester is in Delaware county. I’ve been to dealerships all around the area though including Murphy

Oh I know I’m just over there a bit since I live close to the border. I’m Chester county so a bit west of philly and super close to the de and md bord is e

From PA and can confirm the pineys will roll coal. I am southeast but anywhere west of here your chances of getting coal rolled are high. I find it hilarious to picture some central PA boys driving into Jersey and Maryland and causing a ruckus being a common thing. Kinda like in PA when somebody does some absolutely…

Watch this bare tear through a cage made of 1000 lithium ion batteries while this bear STRUGGLES to escape a cage made of PURE V8 ENGINE BLOCK

The 4 door hatch is just a mini wagon So I guess it’s a different target market but still. I load stuff into my back seats probably twice as much as my trunk for quick runs around town and since the rear seat is so useless for people you’d be using it for cargo and why not have a door to load the cargo if you can…

Apple/android car play is a big exception though since the navigation and music is from your phone but you control it from the car

There are people without kids that still have more than one passenger on a regular basis. And there are people who don’t want to fold down a seat and hunch over to load cargo into the back. If everything about the car is the same, 4 doors are objectively better.